When subtle body evolves from nonhuman body to human body, is it right to say that the only evolution is spiritual not material?
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at the time of the Kurukshetra when the soul moves from animal to human body it is a subtle body that develops and subtle body is matter so in that sense matter is evolving so is it right to correct Darwin to criticize Darwin entirely? He doesn’t have a specific concept of how matter is evolving but the principle that matter is evolving is that wrong according to Darwin No! Prabhupada used the word spiritual evolution but then what he is talking about is actually not the it is the evolution of the soul’s consciousness as it is manifested in the material world and that manifestation is through matter so we can call it spiritual evolution in a generic sense in the sense that ok, the answer is a little technical there are two concepts you need to understand there is Chit and there is Chitta Sat-Chit-Ananda Chit is consciousness the faculty for consciousness in the soul has that is the innate characteristics of the soul Chitta is the embodied consciousness when the soul’s consciousness is rooted through the body that is called as Chitta and interestingly in the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna in 13.7 states that consciousness is the product of matter Prabhupada said life comes from life Krishna says vikaram shivunam shiva viddhi prakriti sambhava he says iksha-dvesha-sukha-dukha-sangata-shetana-aditi vikaram shivunam shiva viddhi prakriti sambhava he says that desire, aversion, dvesha, sukha-dukha, happiness and stress and Chetana, consciousness these are transformations of Chetana, the transformations of the body if consciousness is coming through the soul why is it said that Chetana is a transformation of the body two different things have been talked about Chitta, the consciousness comes from the soul but the embodied consciousness, Chitta that is rooted through the subtle body so a simple example to illustrate this somebody goes to watch a movie then that person has the capacity to look left, look right look at the ceiling, look at the floor but that person gets glued to the movie then that consciousness is caught in the whatever is being depicted in the movie or say if it’s not a movie, it’s a cricket match being played somewhere then that person’s consciousness is transported through the screen to wherever the cricket match is being played so now the consciousness transported through the television screen, that is Chitta and the consciousness that is able to perceive the world around, that is Chitta so now for a person watching a cricket match, that person can anytime turn on the cricket match and look around but for the soul, that is not possible when the soul is attached to the body at that time, the soul’s consciousness is locked into the body so right now we can perceive only through the body so we don’t have any access to Chitta we have access only to Chitta Chitta is our embodied consciousness so now when the soul moves from an animal species to a human species the pathway through which the consciousness is getting routed that is going to change the animal body provides a particular pathway the human body provides a particular pathway now the interesting thing is that actually, the soul moves with the subtle body when a human being dies the gross body is left behind the soul and the subtle body go over so then, if say if a tiger or elephant is becoming a human being now the soul and the subtle body are essentially the same, the same unit has moved from here to here from animal body to human body so how is it that the desires change? an elephant is attracted to elephant food, we humans even a small infant is attracted to elephant food attracted to human food because when the soul transmigrates it is not just a physical location it is also a psychological redirection the subtle body’s desires also change so in that sense the subtle body evolves so matter is evolving and to reject the evolution of matter is not correct but to extrapolate from that that there is no God, there is no soul which are the atheistic implications to which the theory of evolution applied those atheistic implications we definitely