When mantra meditation involves actions and changes, how does it take us from the unchanging to the changing?

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I have a question similar to what he asked contradicts that one so I said that meditation means moving from the changing to the unchanging now in silent meditation we seem to move towards unchanging whereas in mantra meditation we are moving towards sound which is actually changing the sound vibrations are changing yeah the pattern itself is changing actually we see that even when we are silent it’s not necessary that our thoughts are silent quite often when we are silent sometimes thoughts go wild and people may be silent physically but if their mind is going wild then really that’s not meditation externally that may be they may not be doing anything but internally their mind is going wild so on the other hand when we chant the mantras see the sound vibration there is a pattern over there it’s moving up and down but through the movement up and down it is our consciousness which is getting spiritualized it’s like the process of ascending of consciousness so rather than seeing it simply as changing and unchanging these are two levels of reality we are going to the earlier example of a ground floor and upper floor so now see the upper floor is a peaceful place the ground floor is a turbulent place I want to go from the ground floor to the upper floor now for doing that there is a process so it is not that I have to become I have to just become peaceful on the ground floor no, I have to rise to a higher floor where I will be peaceful now that process involves some change so when I say that meditation means moving your thoughts from the changing to the unchanging now that itself involves a change I am changing my thoughts from the changing level to the unchanging level so that process of change is meditation is mantra chanting but the result of mantra chanting is that it creates it creates the uttering of mantras provides a subject for our consciousness or rather an object for our consciousness which itself is spiritual so for example Hare Krishna Mahamantra Chanting so there is a spiritual reality which is invoked by these mantras and that spiritual reality is unchanging that spiritual reality is unchanging and we get connected with that spiritual reality so to give another example if I am having a torch light and I want to read what is over there I focus the torch light over there now from one perspective the light that is going there is continuously changing you know the torch light is emanating rays and the rays are going over there but if I am holding the torch light steadily over here the light that falls on the board is steady and I can read clearly so that means in one sense there is a change because the torch light, the light is flowing continuously in another sense as far as the illumination is concerned, the illumination is steady so like that when we chant the mantras there is change in terms of our consciousness is flowing along the mantra pattern, sound pattern that is there but that sound pattern is directing our consciousness towards the reality that is unchanging so meditation in that sense is not just it is not just it is an ongoing process so the change, the mantra sound it itself is a pattern which is going up and down, up and down but through that pattern of up and down our consciousness continuously being directed towards the spiritual reality which itself is unchanging and that is how the mantras they take us from the changing to the unchanging okay, thoughtful question thank you thank you very much any other questions we will stop here, thank you