What is the monistic conception of pure consciousness in terms of subject object and stream of consciousness?

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Can you explain the concept of stream of consciousness in an object once again? Yeah, I read somebody in their t-shirt. They had written, you know, I was an atheist till I discovered I was God.
So, now what does it mean? Their idea is that for the conditioned soul, the idea that I am God is very titillating. You know, there was a Swami who came to America. He said, I have not come here to… there are many Swamis in the past who came to tell you that they are God.
I have not come to tell you that I am God. I have come to tell you that you are God. So, it is very titillating for the ego.
But this is an oversimplified explanation of monism where the oversimplification becomes a distortion. It becomes a ridiculous distortion. So, when the monists say that actually all of us are Brahman, what they mean is that at present we don’t realize our Brahmatva.
We don’t realize that we are Brahman. So, at our level, we pursue duality. So, for example, I am here, you are there.
Actually we two are one. They are not saying we two are one in the way Bollywood romantic lovers say we two are one. They are saying we two are one in the sense that we are one in being.
They say like that. Now, what they are saying is we are not realizing it because we are in illusion. So, we are in the world of duality and we cannot go beyond duality.
So, actually my sense of I and S, your sense of I and S, both of them are illusion. Because this I and S is a constriction, is a restriction on the infinite Brahman. And liberation means this constriction will be removed.
And then that all pervading absolute that remains, that will be, then you will realize that you are that. So, right now that you are that only but you are constricted and that’s why you are not realizing it. So, they say that okay we have this conception of duality.
We use this conception of duality to advance in spirituality. So, how do you do that? They say conceive that that is God. And you are his servant.
And when you think in this way, you will be thinking about God instead of thinking of other people in this world, other objects in this world. By thinking about God you will become purified. And as you become purified, when you come closer and closer to enlightenment, you will realize that actually that conception of God, you have to go beyond that.
Because that is simply a conception. They consider God, God’s personal manifestation as a transitional tool to attain the impersonal. So, ultimately you have to go beyond the transitional manifestation.
So, they say that yes, right now you think that there is God and you are here and you worship him. But eventually you will realize that actually your conception of you-ness is an illusion. That concept of that God is there, that is also an illusion.
What exists is Brahman and you are that Brahman. So, that is the conception. So, they don’t technically call themselves as, they say that we are not theistic.
We are trans-theistic. They say go beyond God. Now there is a thing, God is the absolute truth.
There is no going beyond the absolute truth. But that is their idea. So, they say that right now you worship God.
So, you are the subject of devotion. God is the object of devotion. But this is all an impure consciousness.
When you come to pure consciousness then you will understand the subject is also an illusion. The object is also an illusion. And only the consciousness will reveal.
And then you will understand you are that. That is their conception. The problem with their conception is that actually it is not based on scripture.
Most of scripture talks about worshiping God, devoting oneself to God, the ecstatic in devotion to God. So, it is there, this is their philosophical construct. But this is not being founded in scripture.