Why is impersonalism condemned in Gita 9.12 and appreciated in Gita 9.15?
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there is ekatvena in 9.15 which is approved as a lower level of god consciousness but then just 3-4 verses before that there is moga asha moga karma where it’s all described as futile actually there is clear difference between brahmavad and mayavad so the impersonal conception is a natural conception of the absolute truth which almost all seekers get as they evolve on the spiritual path when they evolve further they get the personal conception so in that sense the impersonal conception is not wrong or offensive so yeah I mean it is possible most people who conceive of the absolute truth because they see that the forms in this world cause illusion it’s natural to think that beyond the form is something which is the reality so that’s just a natural illusion for example I think in the Bhagavatam also it is said that Shamik Rishi was impersonalist there is no judgment or condemnation associated with him so simply he is impersonalist but then he was also sensitive that he condemned his son and then he said if I go and apologize to the king he will feel bad his conduct also is thoughtful so when the problem comes is that even after one comes to know the personal aspect of the absolute truth and then claims that the personal aspect is illusory then when there is condemnation of the personal aspect that is Mayavadin, that is condemned attraction to the impersonal aspect is not condemned so there if you see 9.11 9.12 is Mogha Shamo Karma, 9.11 is Abhijananti Mahamudha so those who think that Krishna’s form is simply material that they are in illusion and they are condemned so it is only when the personal form is denigrated as a product of illusion as a material form then that is strongly condemned but otherwise not just Ekatvena, Pratatvena in 9.15 but we see later also in 12.34 when Krishna says they also attain Mayavadi so of course Vishwanath Chakrathakur explains that they attain Krishna in the impersonal manifestation that is what they are worshipping that is the principle the thing is the impersonal is not to be condemned again I was talking about disconnection when the impersonal is seen disconnected from the personal and the impersonal is considered to be the absolute then it becomes a problem but if somebody is attracted to the impersonal yes, they will get spiritually elevated by that ok