When pure devotees are beyond the modes where does their nature come from?
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Thank you If a pure devotee is above the mode then what exactly is the cause of their nature when our nature comes from our mode what exactly do we mean by a pure devotee being above their nature when Prabhupada when Prabhupada came to India he was working for the Juhu temple over here so the some Hindu Sabha leader he came to meet Prabhupada and he said Swamiji you pronounce Sanskrit verses in a very Bengali way Prabhupada said what can I do I am a Bengali so Bengali now Prabhupada pronunciation was Bengali English pronunciation was also Bengali I have a Bengali accent so it is the soul’s intention that is unaffected by the modes but the expression of that intention will naturally be according to the body that they have if we say that there should be no effect of any conditioning the soul is speaking in the language of the spiritual world then why should that person speak in a particular language only why English why not French why Bengali only when the soul comes to the material world even for a pure devotee the soul is in a particular body so the modes they affect our intentions adversely and that in the sense of the intentions not being affected by the modes that is the way the devotees pure world transcend the modes but the expression of the intention will be through the body mind vehicle that they have and so like some devotee said that Prabhupada said I did not write my books Krishna wrote my books which is true definitely Krishna gave him the gave him the message but then are we to say that Prabhupada did not write the books then why did Prabhupada not put the name of Krishna as the author of the books Prabhupada put his name that means Krishna gave the message to Prabhupada now in Prabhupada’s books there are places where there are grammatical errors and Prabhupada wanted his editor Prabhupada knew they were there Prabhupada acknowledges Bhagavatam only our effort to speak in a foreign language will be difficult but it is a science of technical values so we hope that serious people will take up the message so now if Prabhupada’s books are written by Krishna does Krishna not know English grammar if we say Prabhupada’s books are written only by Krishna then we will have another kind of Mayavatam that means you know Krishna overpowers the pure devotee’s personality and the pure devotee is not present only Krishna is only present only so we will know nothing about Prabhupada we will know only about Krishna no Prabhupada’s personality does come out in the books Prabhupada had a speaking style, Prabhupada had a writing style and the same Krishna is speaking to Bhaktivinod Thakur and Krishna speaks differently so the purity or the transcendence is an intention it is not an execution it cannot be an execution Bhaktivinod Thakur he used to most of the books he wrote in Bengali his audience he wanted ultimately audience to be worldwide but at that time it was more Bengali intelligent people he was influencing so the Prabhupada also writes in Ishopanishad very striking, he says sin means, no mistake means intentional sinful activity so in that sense there are no mistakes in God Prabhupada, there are no mistakes in, a devotee never has any sinful intention, pure devotee but in terms of execution, the body mind instrument will always be there so the Pandavas have a body mind instrument that is Kshatriya oriented so naturally they will act like Kshatriyas so the nature of the devotee is based on their body mind, now how their body mind is, why they have particular kind of body mind, we don’t know if that devotee has been practicing Bhakti for many lifetimes, there is Adana Siddha then they have been given a particular, by the evolution of their consciousness they have particular body mind if that devotee has descended from the spiritual world then Krishna has arranged for them to have that kind of body mind so that can vary from situation to situation from what particular mission Krishna wants them to execute so the transcendence is not in in the not in the way they act, it is in the purpose for which they act