Technology, Psychology, Spirituality

[Talk to teenagers at Melbourne, Australia]

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So, thank you for coming today evening and does any of you know what we are going to discuss today? The topic? Yes? Science, technology and what? And? Yeah. Anyone else? Sorry? Yeah, correct.
What did you say? Okay. Slightly different. Yes.
Psychology. More similar. Psychology, technology and spirituality.
So, science is psychology. That is correct. Thank you.
So, first, I will speak about psychology. Then I will speak about technology. And then I will speak about spirituality.
So, if anytime you have any question, just raise your hand and feel free to ask. So, last year, I was in California. Where is California? Yeah? Yeah, which part of America? East, West, North, South? Yeah.
Okay, good. West part of America. So, there I was at a friend’s house.
And we were sitting. And he had a big window from which we could see the beautiful greenery. California is a very beautiful place.
Nice mountains, greenery. And we were just looking at the greenery. And then we were chatting.
And then as I was looking at the greenery, I suddenly saw from the greenery a big ape appearing on it. Like the kind of ape you might see in the Planet of the Apes. Have you heard? A huge ape.
And the ape was charging towards the window. And then the ape raised his arms and was about to smash the window. As if to come inside.
And as I was looking at that ape, I got alarmed. And I looked at my friend and he was grinning. I looked at him again and I saw there was something in his hand.
And then I looked. It looked something like a remote. And then he pressed the remote and the ape disappeared.
What happened? Sir, can you guess what had happened? Yeah? Hologram. Hologram. Okay, it’s true.
Remote controlling. Yeah, remote controlling the image. So what happened? Fake ape.
Fake ape. Yes, that is true. So yes? TV.
TV. That’s clever. What happened was he had a window like this slightly bigger window which you see behind.
But this window you can’t see much through it. You can see through the window in that window. But he had made that window in such a special way that it that if you just press a button the window would change into a TV screen.
And once the window would change into a TV screen you could see anything on that same same glass. But the way he had done it was that just to have fun with people he had made a short video clip with the same background as could be seen through the window. And on that he had put a animated ape.
So somebody would be observing they would think there is a real ape coming in about to smash the window and come inside. So now I didn’t know it was a TV. He knew it was a TV.
So when the ape was coming in I was alarmed. But he was simply grinning because he knew that the ape is a fake ape. It’s not for real.
So something similar happens to us. How? All of us are sitting here and there is a window over there. And beyond the window there is the sky, there are some buildings, some houses, everything is there.
So similarly you could say our body is like our house. Now we are sitting here. We are souls who are sitting inside.
And the mind is like the window. So the mind is like the so you are here, your mind is here and the world is here. So now when you look at someone you are looking at me right now and I am looking at you.
So what is happening? You, your mind and me when all of us are in a straight line that is when we can see something. So right now if you start thinking of something else I have got to do. I want to watch this.
I want to play this game. I want to watch this. I want to do that.
And suddenly some thoughts start coming in your mind. And have you had this experience that you are talking with someone and that person doesn’t seem to be there. That person seems to be somewhere else.
Have you had this experience? So then you tell them Earth to you, Earth to you. Come back, don’t go to another planet. Have you had it? Do you use this word? Earth to you in Australia? Okay, Earth to you.
So what has happened over there? In one sense the body is still there. But the mind has gone off somewhere. If the mind goes off somewhere else then we can’t see anything.
Although the eyes see but we don’t see anything. So the mind is sometimes like a window but sometimes it becomes like a TV. And when it becomes like a TV it can start showing many different things on the TV.
Sometimes this TV can show a horror movie. And the TV starts showing a horror movie and this horror movie starts coming up then the person can become very fearful. Person can become completely terrified.
So now what happens? Do you know about phobias? What is a phobia? Yes, sorry? Something you are scared of. Yes, that’s true. Little bit more about it.
Yes, you are scared of it. What is xenophobia? Xenophobia is what? Xenophobia means like the fear of being locked in small tights. That is claustrophobia.
Xeno is foreigners. So somebody whom you don’t know if you see someone else Hey, who is this? So xenophobia. So phobia is basically a fear but you are scared of it but it is something more.
It is an irrational fear. There is no logic, there is no reason for it. I was in India just a month ago 15 days ago and I was talking with a devotee who is a psychiatrist and he was telling that he had a client and this is the woman the wife, she had a phobia and her phobia was for germs.
So she had such phobia for germs that whenever her husband would come back from office she would first tell the husband take a bath before coming inside and she actually had to reconstruct the whole house so that near the door they had a bath and whoever would come in the house she would first take a bath then come in and after you take a bath also what she would do is you take out his purse and then bathe the purse and then she would take out every single item and bathe it. So how? What is this? This is foolish. But what happens if somebody has a phobia like this they can’t help it.
He has become completely fearful. He is completely fearful. So what happens now I said this is our mind is like a window and window should show us something else but for some people when somebody has a phobia at that time the window suddenly changes into a TV and they start seeing a horror movie over there and they can’t stop it.
So it’s not that they are foolish people they are intelligent but at that time they are only seeing that horror movie and when they see that horror movie they just can’t do anything. So imagine say you and your friend are sitting and your friend is very caught in watching a horror movie and you are not so interested in horror movies so your friend is watching the horror movie and you are watching your friend and then the friend hey the friend starts trembling starts shivering starts screaming hey what nothing is happening but for that friend everything is happening because the friend is caught in watching the horror movie so something similar now phobia is where like that screen which is there it suddenly changes into a TV and the TV starts showing a horror movie and we don’t even realize it but for all of us we may not have a phobia but when we also become afraid of some things at that time the same thing happens what happens? we see something or hear something and then suddenly before we understand what is happening the movie on the inner screen starts showing a horror movie the first time I gave a public talk about 25 years ago 25-30 when I was in college I had given before also but that was a major talk and I had planned a 7 minute speech it was elocution competition what is elocution? elocution competition yes public speaking basically the art of public speaking is elocution so it is an elocution competition and then when I was supposed to speak as I was just going towards the dais to speak something within me said you are going to make a fool of yourself have some of you felt this? something says you know you are going to make a mess you are going to make a mistake, you are going to make a fool have you felt that sometimes? yes so I didn’t know what that was but it said that and what happens for me that whenever I am going to speak if I am nervous I start speaking fast and the more nervous I become the faster I become so then I started I got into the dais and I started speaking and I started speaking it was like a sudden if you get into a plane and with a plane without getting any warning zoop starts off like you are just thrown back so like that I just went there and started off and I was speaking so fast that nobody could understand what I was speaking and then generally if you are in a talk and you don’t understand anything then what do you start doing? sleeping or yawning or we start looking at each other we start looking at the watch we start looking at the door basically we start looking everywhere except the speaker isn’t it? so that started happening and when that started happening I became even more nervous and I started speaking faster and then more people started looking here and there and my speed increased even faster I had a 7 minute talk I completed it in 3 minutes in 3, 3 and a half minutes and I didn’t know what to speak then I just started any questions? then one of them asked why did you speak so fast? so I said if I had known I was speaking fast I would not have spoken but that time it struck me that actually what had happened when that voice came you are going to make a fool of yourself I became nervous and this inner scream this window what happened oh I will make a fool, people laugh at me no one will notice me and as that movie started playing I suddenly became very fearful I became nervous and because of that nervousness I started doing everything worse so for all of us when we experience fear so at that time basically fear means that the mind started showing a horror movie and the more dangerous the horror movie the more fearful we become how many of you feel fear? ok some of you are fearless wonderful ok now when you feel fear is it a happy feeling? it’s not happy isn’t it? we don’t want to be afraid when you feel fear what will happen? so many times our fears are more imagined than real so like in my case it was not that I was going to make a fool of myself but by imagining that I was going to make a fool I made a fool of myself so once there was a woman who went to a doctor she said doctor I have a big problem she said what? there is a frog inside my stomach what? she said no the frog is inside my stomach it is going round and round and it is putting me it is causing me a lot of pain the doctor said the frog cannot stay inside your stomach it will die it cannot go inside also no no I can feel it, it is there please do something doctor and she was so mad with anxiety that she decided to and the doctor said ok let’s understand and the doctor came to know that she has gone to 10 doctors before and all the doctors have told her there is no frog there so she said no doctor please do something and the doctor realized that her mind believes that there is a frog and just telling her there is no frog is not going to help so the doctor said ok let’s do some testing and then he got some x-ray some sonograph some scans done and then he said you know you are right there is actually a frog inside thank you doctor for understanding me the doctor said now we can we will have to do a surgery to remove the frog either we can do it now or we can do it after one week now do it now so ok the doctor said ok then I will give you anesthesia what is anesthesia yes yes it makes us unconscious thank you so we get unconscious then even if our body is cut we don’t feel the pain so the doctor gave her anesthesia and just gave her small cuts on the belly and then after a few hours she came back to consciousness in the meanwhile the doctor told the nurse go to a nearby pond and get a frog from there and then he brought the frog and when this woman came back to consciousness he told her see you are right we found this frog in your stomach you saved my life now I am so happy I am so grateful I am relieved and then she went away happy and the doctor and nurses thought that is a good solution now she is free from anxiety and they were happy but after one week that woman came back in great anxiety doctor doctor help me so what happened she said the frog had babies and the babies are where in my stomach so when the mind imagines something at that time what happens even if there is no reality the mind keeps believing it that’s why I said many of our fears are more imagined than real be imaginative this may happen and actually in real life things are not that bad you know sometimes we take loan and then we have to pay interest on that loan you know about this so if you have taken a loan then you have to pay interest but suppose somebody comes to you and tells you you have to pay interest on this loan and you say I have not taken this loan no but you have to pay interest why should I pay I am not going to pay no but you have to pay see if I have not taken the loan why should I pay the interest no you have to pay the interest and if somebody says ok ok if you are saying I will pay you say what foolish you have not taken the loan why should you pay the interest if you have not bought something why should you pay the money for it so fear is like that there is no problem there is no loan taken but we keep paying interest we keep worrying about it yes suppose like you said someone is going to do a surgery they are afraid about the pain like the cutting so that is a real fear how is that imagined very good question so if when the fear is real say somebody is afraid of the pain then how is that an imagined fear actually when we say that most of our fears are more imagined than real that does not mean the whole fear is imagined see there is something that is painful but around that pain a whole story is created so what happens sometimes sometimes you may have to take an injection you take a dose now the dose is to be taken do you enjoy taking injection nobody enjoys so at that time needle is going to go into the body, it is painful but what happens when that needle is going to go into our body our mind starts imagining oh it is going to be terrible blood is going to come out my body is going to I have a hole in my skin I am going to cry so much pain now actually speaking the injection is just a small hole for a moment and it comes out so the pain is little but the imagination makes it very big so there are two there was one situation the example I gave was there was no fear but actually there is nothing to be afraid of but the person imagined everything the other is where there is something to be afraid of but still the imagination makes it much worse just like say if somebody is speaking in public there will be little fear will I forget everything will I what if people don’t understand people don’t appreciate what I am saying little fear is good but if I start imagining oh that actually people will throw eggs at me people will laugh at me people will run me will drive me away from the stage that is all imagination so there is fear there is real cause of fear and there is a whole imagination associated with fear you know you may have some friends who like to tell stories if some small thing happens to it they will exaggerate it do you have any friend like that they take a small thing and make it very big they are experts storytellers so after some time actually today I went to school and there I met this terrible person and he was like this and he did like that oh really it has happened to you and then what happens they just make a big story when nothing has happened so after some time what happens if we repeatedly hear some stories which are exaggerated you know what is exaggeration exaggerate yes what is exaggerate yes we make a small thing very big exaggerate things so somebody slips and falls down and they get a scratch and they say actually you know this person came and pushed me and I fell down and there was a big bar and the bar was about to cut me but I moved aside and the bar just cut my skin and this person was so terrible he pushed me again and he wanted to none of that has happened so all that is exaggeration to make a small thing very big so our mind often exaggerates the problem there is a problem and we should be afraid of it but when the mind exaggerates the problem then we just can’t deal with it so the mind what it does it makes it imagines fears or it sometimes makes small fears very big and that’s how we sometimes end up not responding properly because we have just seen this movie and this movie what happened we get carried away by the movie and we don’t respond properly to reality ok so this was the first point about what was the point I was talking about psychology how our mind affects us so any other questions about this ok so now I will speak second point about technology what is technology yes ok what is technology devices yes that is good what do the devices do yes ok make games yes that’s one thing that’s true yes they addicted now can you repeat I can’t hear you ok you get addicted to stuff on the devices yes that’s interesting at your age I did not know what addicted meant that’s it so yes so basically devices what they do is they help us to do things which we normally could not say like now some of you have glasses now without the glasses I cannot see very well the glass is a device it helps me to see better so similarly a phone is a device so if I want to talk with you I can just directly talk with you but if I want to talk with somebody far away the phone helps me to talk so technology helps us to do things which we normally can’t do if I want to go from here to home I have a car if I want to walk it may take an hour for you to go in 10 minutes you can go so technology enables us to do things which we normally can’t do but so technology not only helps us to do things but technology also does things to us technology does things to us what that means is that when we start using technology say if you start using a phone or ipad you start playing some video game or watching some movie or say as you grow older you may go on social media and then you start chatting with friends and then you may get so caught in that so what is happening somebody is playing a video game there was a boy in Thailand and this boy started playing a video game and he got so caught in, he was staying in a hostel like place he had one room to himself another friend was in another room nearby so they were playing it was vacations he got so caught in playing half hour, one hour 2 hours, 3 hours 4 hours 8 hours 10 hours he kept playing for 71 hours and he got so caught in playing initially he had some food which he ate after he forgot to eat, he forgot to drink he forgot to sleep and then eventually because of that continuous playing playing playing he just got so overworked so exhausted that he got a stroke and fainted bang he fell on the ground he didn’t realize it at all fortunately his friend was nearby and his friend came running and rushed him to a hospital and he survived so you see who can play for 71 hours but what happened is that he had nothing else to do it was vacations, he didn’t have any school to go to he just kept playing kept playing so what happens, normally we may play but who will play for 71 hours so technology can push us as a technology can help us to do things which we can’t normally do but technology also does things to us which we normally wouldn’t do now you said about getting we get addicted to devices this is a good example of getting so addicted that the person forgets to eat, forgets to sleep forgets everything except doing what he is doing he is so caught in doing it he just doesn’t realize press this button so I have a friend in a very big university in America in Massachusetts one of the biggest universities so there they work on responsive technology that means when you press a button then if any video game they make, what happens is you press a button and some options come up you do this or do this or do this so they do psychological study to find out how your mind can get caught the most and that’s how 1,2,3,4 just get caught so much so I am talking about technology in relationship with psychology so suppose now this floor is this floor flat or is it sliding what is the floor it’s flat now suppose the floor were sliding like this and then say from your bottle some water falls then what would happen is your bottle so if water falls down and the floor is sliding what will happen water will go to the slope so water will go to the water on the slope and now if you say no no no I don’t want the water to go there now just you are not wanting will it stop the water you say no I will put my hands over there I will not let the water go how much can you block it, lot of water will keep going so when the floor becomes inclined in a particular way the water will naturally go in that direction even if you don’t want it to go it will go isn’t it so similarly for all of us if you consider our mind to be like the floor and then our thoughts are like the water falling on it so what happens for all of us our floor our mind’s floor is inclined in particular ways so if somebody is very hooked to video games somebody is very addicted to facebook somebody is very addicted to to movies somebody is very addicted to sports whatever it is then as soon as they have nothing to do their thoughts will start going in that direction and when thoughts start going in that direction they get caught they just get caught they don’t even realize but they get caught so if the floor is inclined this way and the water is flowing this way if you don’t want the water to flow in that direction what should we do put your put your put your leg in the water and push it in the other direction okay go that way yes put your leg in the push the water that’s a good solution get a cloth and soak it up there’s too much water to soak it in the cloth get a big cloth get a towel get a towel okay good so if the water is there then we’ll have to do something about it it won’t go away on its own so what happens see some people based on how their psychology is they always think in particular ways and think in that way they just can’t think in another way so how many of you know about the Mahabharata okay everyone knows about Mahabharata so now in the Mahabharata who are the Pandavas five Pandavas anyone know the names yes okay thank you so the five Pandavas and who is the villain Duryodhana yes so what happened how many days of the Kurukshetra wars eighteen yes eighteen was the last seventeen plus one so now on the thirteenth day the Kauravas they came together and they made a plan they formed a particular formation in the military and they trapped one Pandava warrior who was that yes Abhimanyu yes and Abhimanyu was whose son Arjuna’s son excellent oh you know the Mahabharata very well good so then anyway the next day Arjuna got very angry Arjuna said what will I do yeah yes the next day in how much time yes thank you so what happened Arjuna started fighting and then Arjuna entered into the Kaurava ranks and that day they had made the military formation in such a way that they put Jaidrath right at the back and there was twenty miles of army in between twenty miles and army was twenty miles long and two miles broad so Arjuna entered into it just broke through and just charging charging charging chasing after so as he kept going one after another after another so now the Kauravas had not expected they knew Arjuna was going to attack but Arjuna attacked so fiercely that nobody could stop it and then Duryodhana got worried and at that time who was the commander of the Kaurava army Bhishma yes Bhishma was the first commander from day one to day ten Bhishma was there and on day ten Bhishma fell then from day eleven to day fifteen who was the commander Dronacharya Dronacharya yes Karna was after Drona from day sixteen to day seventeen he was Karna so Duryodhana went to Drona and he said Acharya please help us this Arjuna is actually destroying our whole army he will please stop so Drona Drona said actually the Pandavas have thought their strategy very well all our warriors are either fighting with the Pandava warriors or they are placed at various places to protect Jayaindra I want to be right here next to Jayaindra I can’t go and fight with Arjuna right now but there is one warrior who can go and fight there is one warrior who is not doing anything right now who is that Duryodhana asked who is that it’s you Duryodhana now Duryodhana said oh Acharya I might be able to fight the whole army but I can’t fight Arjuna and certainly not Arjuna in this mood he is mad with anger so at that time Drona said don’t worry we won’t offer you as a sacrificial lamp to Arjuna I have a plan he said I have got an armor what is the armor yes it’s a protective covering which takes in the blows of arrows or weapons he said I will put on a special armor on you and that armor nobody will be able to penetrate and with that armor you can hold Arjuna back and Drona became very happy and he had also heard Drona had such an armor it was a celestial armor, special armor and it was an armor which was not easily visible so then suddenly as Arjuna was penetrating the Kaurava ranks suddenly Duryodhana came over there where are you going fight with me and both Arjuna and Krishna were surprised to see Duryodhana standing there so fearlessly so Krishna said to Arjuna Arjuna I think you can finish the war today itself how finish the war yes yeah Duryodhana is the villain if he is brought down then the war is over so then Arjuna was also surprised Duryodhana said oh Arjuna are you afraid of me you are so proud of your power he said I will crush you today and then show your might and I will crush you after that and Arjuna started shooting arrows and normally when the enemy would shoot arrows the warriors would do three things one is either the charioteer would move the chariot aside so that they would dodge the arrow or they would shoot their own arrow and counter that arrow so both the arrows would collide in mid air or the third would be that they would let the arrow hit them but their armor would protect them so depending on how they were fighting they would use any of these three strategies so in this case Duryodhana kept shooting at Arjuna and whichever arrows were coming just let them hit he let them hit himself and the arrows came and hit and nothing happened and Arjuna shot one two three and all the arrows just fell off and Duryodhana said what happened Arjuna you think you are so powerful I will destroy you now and he started shooting arrows and Arjuna was countering his arrows and Krishna told him Arjuna what happened are you out of form today what happened and then Arjuna started thinking and now Arjuna was whose student Arjuna was also expert Arjuna immediately recognized he said how can my arrows not hurt him he said I think Drona has given his armor to him and that’s why my arrows which can break boulders apart break stones apart they are rendered harmless but he says still I know although he has his armor still I will humble him now now what happened this armor was such that it covered the whole body of Duryodhana but only thing was that if like say if you are wearing gloves sometimes they may cover the whole arm or sometimes the gloves may cover the hand but the fingertips if you want to hold something the fingertips might be open so this armor was such that the fingertips were not protected by the armor and nobody knew that only Arjuna knew that even Duryodhana did not knew that so Duryodhana was just brazenly just fight shooting arrows and come on Arjuna what can you do and Arjuna took careful aim he shot ten arrows and the ten arrows went into where ten fingers Duryodhana started screaming over there and screaming he dropped his bow and arrow and as he was screaming like that Krishna and Arjuna started laughing and laughing just bypassed him and rushed by and Duryodhana’s chariot turned around and tried to pull out the arrows one by one by one by that time Krishna had gone so yes no no it was that was just a limitation of that armor but unless the opponent knew that limitation there would not be any danger normally you will shoot at the if an enemy is going to shoot they will shoot at the chest, they will shoot at the neck nobody is going to shoot at the tip of the fingers so that was the vulnerability in general in the material world no plan is foolproof you know what is foolproof no plan is such that you can have no no holes in it it is just that we try to cover up the major holes and we hope that others don’t know the small holes that are there that’s how we work so Arjuna went forward charging and then as Arjuna went inside Yudhishthira started thinking yesterday Abhimanyu went into the enemy Kaurava formation and Abhimanyu got trapped and today Arjuna went there what if Arjuna gets trapped so he turned around and said whom to send so there was Arjuna’s friend and student named Satyaki he told Satyaki today is the opportunity for you to repay your debt to your teacher, please go and assist and Satyaki was very eager and Satyaki charged him, Arjuna had created a trail of devastation and he had gone by and Satyaki went rapidly towards him and then after Satyaki went in Satyaki was also quite young and Yudhishthira became worried Satyaki is like Abhimanyu and what if Satyaki is not able to reach Abhimanyu, Arjuna and instead he gets trapped he turned around, whom to send and there was one person in the Mahabharata who is always itching to fight who is that Bhima Bhima, yes, look at Bhima and Bhima was just logging, when now Bhima had been told specifically to be by Yudhishthira because Drona had made a promise to Duryodhana on the first day when Drona became the commander initially everybody had thought that Karna will become the commander because Duryodhana loved Karna very much so then, but when Drona became the commander, Drona was very pleased and he said I want to offer you some boon, what can I give you so he said please arrest Yudhishthira and bring him alive before me so Drona was amazed he said oh, Yudhishthira is such a great soul, he has no enemies that even you do not want Yudhishthira to be killed, you want Yudhishthira to be brought alive so Duryodhana said that after 10 days of seeing how the Pandavas are fighting I have understood that we can’t win this war so my plan is if you arrest Yudhishthira and bring him before me I will challenge him for another gambling match and again I will send him 13 years into the forest Drona said you will never learn so what had happened, there was this fear yes ok, 13 or 14 in the Ramayana it is 14 years the Pandavas, the Lord Rama had to go to the forest for 14 years in the Mahabharata, it is 12 plus 1 12 years in the forest, 1 year in hiding, incognito, 13 years so anyway so Drona had tried but 11th, 12th day he could not succeed, 13th day also he had tried his hope was to trap Yudhishthira but they trapped Abhimanyu so there was a fear that Drona might attack Yudhishthira and capture him that’s why Bhima was there to guard but what happens when you are just a bodyguard of someone you are a guard of someone and if there is no attack then there is no action so Bhima was getting bored over there, nothing to do Yudhishthira looked at Bhima and he said can you go to help Arjuna now Bhima thought about it and he looked around there, Dhristadyumna and others were there, he said you protect Yudhishthira and they said because Arjuna was going towards Karna, Arjuna was going towards Jaidrath so Drona would probably be caught over there Drona will not come over here and Bhima was charged and as Bhima charged in what happened Bhima first Arjuna had gone in and then Satyaki came behind him and Bhima came after him now when Arjuna alone was there he was unstoppable but sadly the Kauravas were fighting but by the time Bhima reached Arjuna and the Kauravas saw both of them together the Kaurava soldiers started just running away and when the Kaurava soldiers started running away the Kauravas, Duryodhana’s brothers they said where are you running, don’t be cowards come and fight, I will lead you and Bhima was so eager, Bhima had taken a vow what was the vow of Bhima there are hundred, how many Kauravas were there hundred and they had all been a part of the of the group that insulted Draupadi so he said I will finish off all of you and on that day one after another after another it was like within a couple of hours Bhima finished off 25 Kauravas and Duryodhana got the news he said it seems Arjuna alone is destroying my whole army and Bhima alone is destroying all my brothers and today the whole war will end and sinking in gloom he thought that today we will stop Arjuna and Arjuna will enter into fire and we will win, he just took his hands and said Satyaki how is this happening what can I do, who can ever stop such people, there is no way to stop, it is becoming gloomy as it became gloomy he looked around and the sun was moving towards the horizon sun was setting as sun was setting suddenly a thought came in his mind he was thinking how is it that this Arjuna and Krishna, Arjuna and Bhima has destroyed my whole army now the sages and Bhishma they told him repeatedly that actually Krishna is God, so he said maybe Krishna is really God maybe it’s God, what is the use of fighting against him he became more depressed as he looked up and still he saw the sun sinking towards the horizon he said if Krishna is God and Krishna loves Arjuna and Arjuna loved Abhimanyu so I was able to kill Abhimanyu and because I was able to kill Abhimanyu therefore Krishna is not God what is the logic Krishna loved Arjuna, Arjuna loved Abhimanyu if Krishna had been God Krishna would have protected Abhimanyu and because I was able to kill Abhimanyu therefore therefore what? Krishna is not God and just this thought came in his mind and he jumped up, come on we will stop this he said yesterday we had got when Abhimanyu had been attacked how many warriors were there, yes in between both six yes six warriors were attacked he said today we will have eight warriors attacking, so he said Drona and Kripa you attack you attack Arjuna from the front and he said Shalya and Shakuni you attack from the right and he said Karna and Ashwathama you attack from the left and turn to Dushasan he said I and Dushasan will attack from behind he chose from the behind so no danger for him his fingers are still burning with the wounds so they all suddenly attack Arjuna Arjuna was fighting and suddenly the arrows started coming from all sides and it was like a cloud of arrows that darkened the sky around him Arjuna was spinning around in his chariot shooting arrows trying to fight back fight back and he was barely able to hold his own arrows were coming from all directions Arjuna was shooting shooting Arjuna was so fast that nobody could see when he put his hand, when he took out an arrow when he shot arrow, when he took out a bow his bow was like twisted into a circle it was just going around but despite all the shooting of arrows Arjuna was just barely able to hold on he couldn’t move forward at all as he couldn’t move forward at all he started despairing he had seen Jaidrath’s chariot he could see it it covered 40 miles but now he couldn’t even move forward it was so close yet so far so what to do and he started despairing he could see the sun going down towards Aurang and suddenly Krishna realized that my devotee is in danger Arjuna started becoming despairing, becoming fearful how will I reach and then when a devotee becomes fearful Krishna comes to help so what did Krishna do Krishna called his darshan chakra celestial disk that time just came in a small form and just released it and it went up and it covered the sun it covered the sun and to people over there who knew what was happening they thought it was an eclipse and that time a solar eclipse now of course the warriors were not aware of this, warriors are completely busy in fighting if you are fighting with someone you don’t see if there is a star over there or a moon over there so of course if somebody beats us then you may see stars that’s inside our head but so what happened they were fighting and suddenly the sun got covered and everything seemed to become dark and when everything became dark the Pandavas, the Kauravas started celebrating yes Arjuna is defeated Arjuna is going to die now and then Jaidat was hiding behind, he came forward Arjuna you are going to kill me now I will light the fire for you and they all started mocking and jeering at Arjuna Arjuna put his bow down disappointed as he was putting his bow down Krishna told him Arjuna there is still time just put the Brahmastra on your arrow now there are times when no questions should be asked hmm so Arjuna didn’t ask, what? the sun has set how can I fight so now Krishna must be having something in mind he took the, put the Brahmastra I told him point it at Jaidat’s head in such a way that Jaidat’s head will not fall immediately on the ground, it will fly straight away and near the eye in the mountain there is his father Rudhakshatra who is performing penance and there let the arrow fall on his lap, sorry let the head fall on his lap and took the bow and shot and as Arjuna was about to shoot he placed the arrow and he was about to shoot, Krishna removed his darshan chakra and Krishna told Arjuna there is the sun and there is Jaidat shoot and Jaidat was laughing and suddenly he froze in the laughter, he saw the sun and he saw the arrow and before he could do anything the arrow just cut off his head the Kauravas were all watching and they were celebrating and suddenly stopped what happened right in front of their eyes his head got lopped off it’s like if a cricket match is going on and a bowler bowls a ball such a fast ball that the bells get knocked out and not only they get knocked out they just fly out of the stadium and the opposing team’s coach is there, the bells go and follow the opposing team’s coach lap so now Rudhakshatra he had got a benediction, he wanted to protect his son, he had got a boon that anybody who causes my son’s head to fall on the ground that person’s head will crack apart now good so now Arjuna did not know about this but Krishna knew about it so Krishna told him shoot the arrow in such a way that the head will go and fall on Rudhakshatra’s lap so it fell on Rudhakshatra’s lap and it fell there then Rudhakshatra was meditating as soon as he closed his eyes suddenly he felt something falling on him he looked, he saw a black head, what is this he couldn’t even recognize it’s his own son’s head, immediately just pushed it aside as pushed it fell on the ground so he caused it to fall on the ground and what happened his own head exploded and in that way his boon caused his own death yeah but as I said every boon it has a loop hole so when you ask for boons you have to ask for very careful words so he thought whoever kills my son he will cause the head to fall on the ground but like you know Hiranyakashipu Narasimha story Hiranyakashipu was thinking if I ask inside the house, outside the house in the day, in the night I will not be killed so what happened then and the threshold so what happens when people ask for blessings like this they get caught in the words so he asked anybody who caused my son’s head to fall on the ground so he himself became the cause and that’s how his boon worked against him and then the point was separated so then Duryodhana thought what happened, I thought I had won and I lost so he was completely devastated by it, anyway I told this story for a particular point that point is that when we experience fear or negativity or distress, Krishna is there to help us just like Arjun tried his best and then Krishna helped Arjun so similarly I was talking about technology in technology, just like we have some technology that enables us to do something which we can’t do, we can talk with someone Arjun also had technology arrows that we could shoot and send people’s head far away but Arjun had not just technology he had spirituality spirituality means he had Krishna with him and because he had Krishna he was protected so now for all of us I’ll conclude with one last point so what is the spelling of fear, yes yes F E A R F E A R there are four letters over here so my last point has four points in it based on acronym fear so when we feel fear we feel fear of the dark we feel fear of strangers we feel fear of failing in an exam we feel fear of losing something whenever we feel any fear at that time we can use this four points F E A R F is focus focus means like you mentioned this point sometime there is a real problem and then, but we imagine focus means we start feeling fearful, what if this happens, what if that happens what if that happens, so focus means what is the exact problem right now say if you are preparing for an exam and then you find that oh no, what if I don’t do well in this exam, what is the exact problem right now focus then E is engage engage means what can I do about this right now A is arise arise means understand that you are above your fears, you are a soul you are a part of Krishna and R is release release means let go that something is in your control something is not in your control so let go of that which is not in your control so I will tell one story about how I unwittingly applied this in my life and you can think about how you could apply this four points so about two years ago when I had gone to America I went from India I went to America and then as I was entering into America, I had to catch another flight from there to go to another city there is a connecting flight and when I came into the security suddenly I heard a loud noise and before I could understand what happened, there were 7-8 American security guards pointing their guns at me I said what happened he said that when your crutches and I use this crutches for walking so he said when your crutches pass through our security machine we got a high explosive alert so he said we have to frisk you fully and security guard came and said look at the crutches I said what is there, crutch is a crutch nothing is there, he said no there is a high explosive over it so he said that we will have to break this crutch I said if you break the crutch how will I walk he said that’s not my problem I said what do you mean he said no we have to protect America that’s fine there is nothing in the crutch he said no no there is a high explosive alert so then as I was talking initially I was surprised when I heard this big noise then when I said I have got nothing, why are you troubling me like this, I was annoyed but then as he said we will break the crutches, I started getting alarmed actually I had another flight to catch and this would get delayed and I would not be able to catch that flight I was getting alarmed and then suddenly I didn’t consciously think about this but somehow it worked out like that so I said if I get these people, if I don’t catch the flight I have a program over there, a business program I don’t know how many hours I have to spend over here ok what is the problem what is the problem ok the problem is these people suspect that there is something in the crutches so as I was talking, as I was thinking as I was praying little bit what happened basically, I like to recite Bhagavad Gita verses so that is why I was reciting some verses of Bhagavad Gita so I came to a verse in the 18th chapter I was reciting in my mind everything, not that I was talking and loudly reciting, not like that I was reciting in my mind, so there is 18th chapter where Krishna says it says that we are all wandering in this world and Krishna is guiding our wanderings so as I started reciting this verse it suddenly struck me that actually I have travelled across so many countries, caught so many flights and there could have been so many times things could have gone wrong but through all of them Krishna has protected me Krishna has made sure that I reached wherever I wanted to, where I needed to so I just thought like this I started feeling calm I started feeling calm I said what can I do Krishna whatever you want released and then there is another security person the security in charge’s boss he came over there what’s going on over there he spoke something to them then this person looked at me he looked at this person he said you go I will take care of this and then he said what is there in this crutches he said I said nothing is there and he looked at it and he picked it up he says can we open it and then he said I told you are in the screws and I told you this is a collapsible one so you can open it also he said if you can open it there is no need to break it and they started opening it and then he opened it and he looked inside it he said I can see something dark inside it so he took out the upper part and lower part upper part was fine nothing inside lower part he said I can see something dark and then he got some prong and he put it inside pulling out something he said what is this I told him what does it look like he picked it up and he said bend it he said I said just pull out one more something more he said what is this I said it is dirt he put it inside and he looked at it so what had happened before I had gone where is my crutch so before I had gone to America I had gone to Vrindavan so in Vrindavan I had gone by the Jamuna and Jamuna is quite muddy over there so bottom of my crutches there are these crutch tips they call it these are made of rubber and sometimes they get worn out and when they get worn out we need to replace them but before they are replaced if they are worn out you walk with them for sometime so what had happened my crutch tips had got worn out and the dust of Vrindavan the dirt of Vrindavan had gone inside the crutches and near the Jamuna Jamuna is very polluted because of lot of pollution so that the sedimented dirt the sedimented soil next to Vrindavan it had high metallic content in it so the dirt which was there in my crutches was actually the mud from Vrindavan so it is the dust of Vrindavan so dust of Vrindavan is actually spiritually very powerful so their machine founded like an explosive so then it took out little more of that and then he said look at it once again smelled it and he said you know cleaning your crutches is not my duty he fixed the crutches and he said you can go now clean your crutches afterwards and then I went away after that so at that time basically what happened was the fear was there but because I was able to think of Krishna that helped me to rise there is no need to get so worried Krishna will protect and focus, engage, arise, release it all happened automatically so for all of us if we face some fear in our life then sometimes our fear may come from our situation like you said sometimes it may just come from imagination completely but wherever the fear comes from we take shelter of Krishna if you remember Krishna Krishna will give you the guidance by which you can overcome the fear so that way whatever we need to do we can do effectively if we turn towards Krishna so I will summarize I spoke on three points what was the first point? psychology so psychology I talked about understanding the mind the mind is like a window which turns into a TV and it starts showing us a horror movie which makes us fearful I gave different examples of that ape appearing on that window apparently or of this, what was this woman’s problem? frog there is a frog inside my teeth so like that we all we have our fear some people have phobia, when they see something and immediately the horror movie starts off we just can’t do anything about it so we need to stop the horror movie from starting and if you can understand the horror movie starting and stop watching it then also we can protect ourselves so how do we deal with fear? for that I talk about I talk about technology in technology I give the example that how technology enables us to do things we can’t do like say talk with people far away but technology also does to us things which we normally not do that is say somebody kept playing video game for 71 years and fainted because of his attack so now we all can get so captivated by technology that we get completely lost that’s when we come to spirituality so when I give the example that when we keep doing something repeatedly then our thoughts keep going in that direction somebody who just plays video games too much, just think about just like Duryodhan I told the whole story of Duryodhan and trying to stop Jayadrath and Peli Duryodhan always thought that Krishna is not God and I am going to win even when he was being defeated he somehow thought Krishna is not God but Krishna was really God and Krishna backfired Duryodhan and ensured that Arjun became victorious and lastly just as Krishna helped Arjun Krishna can help us also whenever we face fear and to deal with fear I talked about acronym fear what is acronym fear? F was? Focus whenever you feel afraid whenever it starts becoming like a TV show or a horror movie what is the exact problem? there is nothing really happening then E was? What can I do about it right now? this may happen like ok this person wants to what is the exact problem? they found something in my crutches what can I do about it? ok help them help them open the crutches ok actually I am not just in this situation I am a soul who is part of Krishna and remains Krishna has taken care of me so many times in the past Krishna will take care of me now also in this way when we work then we can live we can overcome fear by praying to Krishna, by chanting Hare Krishna you will find that whenever fear comes in your life you can overcome fear by focusing, engaging, arising and releasing thank you very much Hare Krishna Thank you any questions? yes ok good question why did Krishna let Abhimanyu die? Krishna doesn’t promise that bad things won’t happen in this world what Krishna promises is that actually through the bad things he will make sure that good will come out so the nature of the world is sometimes bad things will happen and sometimes Krishna protects directly sometimes Krishna protects indirectly so although Arjun although Abhimanyu did die but Abhimanyu died remembering Arjun Abhimanyu died remembering Krishna Abhimanyu died while fighting a hero’s hero’s battle and because of that he was liberated he was liberated so in that sense at a spiritual level he did get Krishna’s protection so sometimes the protection may come at the material level, sometimes it may not come at the material level but if somebody is serving Krishna then surely at the spiritual level they are protected because Duryodhana did not understand the spiritual level so he thought Abhimanyu had not been protected, Abhimanyu had been saved and that’s how his reasoning went wrong okay thank you yes when Arjun was trying to defend himself how did his quiver not run out of arrows oh okay good question how did Arjun’s quiver not run out of arrows actually Arjuna had been given a blessing that when he had got his chariot Agni had given him the chariot and Agni had given him a blessing that his quiver would be inexhaustible so even inexhaustible that means even if it got exhausted it would get replenished so as soon as it got finished nobody had to replenish it it would always stay full that was a special blessing he had got good question thank you any other questions sorry how does he know which arrow oh okay so how does he know which arrow to get out actually they had you see the arrows were carried not only in the quivers the arrows were also placed at other places in case the quiver something happened other arrows also over there but when we talk about Brahmastra to understand that it is not necessarily just a special arrow it is a special arrow but the real astra is not just the arrow, it is the chanting of the mantras so the astra is not just the physical weapon the astra is actually the power that is put in that weapon by the chanting of the mantras so they would take a shining arrow so he would take a good sharp arrow but the chanting of the mantra would invest that arrow with the power of the Brahmastra so that’s why when later on if you remember Karna when he had to fight he wanted to get the Varga astra but he couldn’t remember the mantra and that’s why he couldn’t get the arrow itself so the arrow is not just dependent, the astra is not dependent on the physical arrow sometimes there might be a special arrow also which they might keep at a separate place or sometimes a special arrow might appear only when they will meditate on the mantra, the arrow itself will appear in their hands but the important thing is that it is not the physical device, it is the mantra that is chanted that makes it special yes three different ways are there they could take a normal arrow they could have a special arrow and by the chanting of the mantra itself an arrow might appear so all three are possible you had a question? anyone else? yes how do we pick the arrow? how do we get the time to pick the arrow? that’s the expertise that’s the speed sometimes if you have seen some quiz contests there are rapid fire quizzes now in rapid fire quizzes what happens? 1,2,3,4,5 questions come up isn’t it? so you want to ask rapid fire questions? ok good so now somebody who doesn’t have that knowledge, how can you answer questions so fast? but the person is so expert they can answer questions very fast so like that the expert warrior trained in rapid fighting so quickly take out the arrow so fast that it’s a blinding speed that’s what is required, that’s what is expertise so expertise is not just shooting arrows but also the speed with which they take out the arrows yes? what if they shoot? yes that’s possible but Arjun also had an invincible armor so because Arjun had an invincible armor so he would not get damaged and if an arrow would be damaged he would take out another arrow he is an expert warrior he doesn’t remember, he doesn’t he will never get confused over such things he will never get confused, he has lots of arrows and he will use it shot thousands and thousands and thousands of arrows somebody is an expert they can actually do such a thing even while sleeping yes practice practice but repeated practice yes no at that time these are mantras which they are expert at chanting for all of us, do we speak in Sanskrit? no so then for us to chant Sanskrit mantra is very difficult but if you speak an English phrase it’s not very difficult isn’t it? because that’s a normal language so for them Sanskrit was a normal language chanting mantra also would not take that time for them if we recite the Bhagavad Gita if we recite all the 700 verses usually it takes us one and a half, two, three hours but Arjun Arjun and Krishna, their whole dialogue happened within one hour because they were speaking Sanskrit was a normal language so thank you very much