Bhagavatam-daily 247 – 11.12.04 – Social division is not to be eternalized because social designation itself is not eternal

Shubhagatam 11 12 4 Vidyadharam Anusheshu Vaishyashudhrashtriyo Antyajah Vajasthamaha Prakrityas Tasmins Tasmin Yuge Yuge Krishna is continuing to describe the glory of association here and that connection states Vidyadharam Anusheshu that there are Vidyadharas and who are one kind of celestial godly beings Anusheshu are humans now the point of this verse is not to give a systematic technical taxonomy systematic technical classification it the point of the verse is to give to convey the universality of the process of bhakti and specifically the universality of the magnanimity of bhaktas of the association of devotees so that’s why after describing Manusheshu then while Manush is a meta category that can include all Varanas but further the Varanas are also described specifically Vaishyashudhrashtriyo Antyajah now within the human species there are certain species there are certain Varanas or certain classes of people that are considered higher and certain that are considered lower and either way however they are considered the important point is that not which is higher and which is lower but all can go to the highest so sometimes some people just get too caught in the idea that why are certain castes considered lower and say why are women considered lower or why are certain classes considered as certain groups of people considered as Antyajah there is no need unnecessarily to get caught too much in this technical classification because the point ultimately is not to reimplement this kind of technical classification rather it is to transcend this classification yes there has to be some system of social organization and Varanashram which is based on inherent human typology is valuable is a natural is a useful social division but no matter how useful or not that social division is the point ultimately is that no social division is ultimate because our social designation is itself not ultimate it is not eternal it is temporary and that’s why giving too much importance to it sabotages the ultimate purpose of this division so just as in a hospital sometimes some patients will be classified okay this person is very serious this person is this person is as acute infection this person is a chronic infection so that sort of classification the point of that is not to say that someone is lower and someone is higher the point is to ultimately go beyond to take people in general beyond all these classifications the point is to help people recognize that they need to all people they have to get cured and the infrastructure and the resources of the hospital can be geared and you to channelized and utilized effectively based on that system of classification the point is not to permanently label anyone but to efficiently cure everyone just as saying that this person is having a serious infection that is not a value judgment that is meant to demonize or minimize that person similarly to say that some people are infected more by the Mores and to say that some people are infected less by the Mores so yes the Shudras are influenced more by the Moguna the Brahmanas are much less influenced by the Moguna this sort of division is not meant to take things away from us it’s not meant to discriminate and certainly it’s not meant to perpetuate discrimination it is actually meant to facilitate elevation facilitate rectification so when people are given socio-economic professions according to their individual dispositions then they can be efficiently engaged and then they don’t need to be unduly agitated or worried or dissatisfied with their worldly professions when they are engaged in a compatible way then they are satisfied and by being satisfied they can move onwards and upwards towards a spiritual growth in a more harmonious way if there is excessive instability in our material life then we cannot focus on spiritual growth much and that’s why to be able to focus on spiritual growth we do need to be able to have some material stability and the whole purpose of trying to provide for material stability through Varanashram is so that people can become elevated towards spiritual consciousness and towards liberation so here just tamas prakritayas so yes different people can have different prakriti they can be infected by the modes in different ways and whatever would be the way in which they are infected by the modes still they can be elevated if they determinedly practice bhakti if they sincerely strive for elevation then whatever be their situation they can be elevated they can move onwards towards elevation and liberation. Yuga Yuga so here it is mentioned that association of devotees is the means by which the transcendental becomes accessible to everyone whatever be their level in the material organization devotees don’t discriminate based on varna rather they disseminate to everyone

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Shubhagutham, 11, 12, 4 Vidyadhara Manusheshu Vaishyashudhrastriyo Antyaja Rajasthamaha Prakrityas Tasmin Tasmin Yuge Yuge Krishna is continuing to describe the glory of association here and that connection states Vidyadhara Manusheshu that there are Vidyadharas who are one kind of celestial godly beings Manusheshu are humans now the point of this verse is not to give a systematic technical taxonomy, systematic technical classification the point of the verse is to give a to convey the universality of the process of bhakti and specifically the universality of the magnanimity of bhaktas, of the association of devotees so that's why after describing Manusheshu then while Manushya is a meta category that can include all Varanas but further the Varanas are also described specifically Vaishyashudhrastriyo Antyaja now within the human species there are certain species there are certain Varanas or certain classes of people that are considered higher and certain that are considered lower and either way however they are considered the important point is that not which is higher and which is lower but all can go to the highest so sometimes some people just get too caught in the idea that why are certain caste considered lower and say why are women considered lower or why are certain classes considered as certain groups of people considered as Antyaja there is no need unnecessarily to get caught too much in this technical classification because the point ultimately is not to reimplement this kind of technical classification rather it is to transcend this classification yes there has to be some system of social organization and Varanashram which is based on inherent human typology is valuable is a natural is a useful social division but no matter how useful or not useful that social division is the point ultimately is that no social division is ultimate because our social designation is itself not ultimate it is not eternal it is temporary and that's why giving too much importance to it sabotages the ultimate purpose of this division so just as in a hospital sometimes some patients may be classified okay this person is very serious this person is this person is as acute infection this person is a chronic infection so that sort of classification the point of that is not to say that someone is lower and someone is higher the point is to ultimately go beyond to take people in general beyond all these classifications the point is to help people recognize that they need to all people they have to get cured and the infrastructure and the resources of the hospital can be geared and channelized and utilized effectively based on that system of classification the point is not to permanently label anyone but to efficiently cure everyone just as saying that this person is having a serious infection that is not a value judgment that is meant to demonize or minimize that person similarly to say that some people are infected more by the Mores and to say that some people are infected less by the Mores so yes the Shudras are influenced more by the Moguna the Brahmanas are much less influenced by the Moguna this sort of division is not meant to take things away from us it's not meant to discriminate and certainly it's not meant to perpetuate discrimination it is actually meant to facilitate elevation facilitate rectification so when people are given socio-economic professions according to their individual dispositions then they can be efficiently engaged and then they don't need to be unduly agitated or worried or dissatisfied with their worldly professions when they are engaged in a compatible way then they are satisfied and by being satisfied they can move onwards and upwards towards a spiritual growth in a more harmonious way if there is excessive instability in our material life then we cannot focus on spiritual growth much and that's why to be able to focus on spiritual growth we do need to be able to have some material stability and the whole purpose of trying to provide for material stability through Varanashram is so that people can become elevated towards spiritual consciousness and towards liberation so here tamas prakritayas so yes different people can have different prakriti they can be infected by the modes in different ways and whatever be the way in which they are infected by the modes still they can be elevated if they determinedly practice bhakti if they sincerely strive for elevation then whatever be their situation they can be elevated they can move onwards towards elevation and liberation yuga yuga so here it is mentioned that association of devotees is the means by which the transcendental becomes accessible to everyone whatever be their level in the material organization devotees don't discriminate based on varna rather they disseminate to everyone irrespective of whatever be one's social designation that is the mercy of devotees thank you.