CC daily 107 – M 6.137-139 – Secondary meaning makes the self a higher authority than scripture

Vedanta also how we will take this argument further we will discuss in our future talks thank you so the vedas are self-evident they do not need vindication by any other source they are self-authoritative and what they say is true so just as the sun does not need any other illumination any other source of illumination to we see the sun when it shines it it reveals itself and it reveals everything else to us just as the sun is self-evident when it rises similarly the vedas in their import is self-evident and they are their own they are their own authority lakshanak lakshana karele swataha pramanyaha nihai lakshana karele but when one takes a secondary meaning then their self uh their self-authority their swataha pramanya their self-evidence shial authority to nature gets subverted why because if you're going to take secondary meaning of the vedic text then that would imply that there will be dependence on people for how how they choose a secondary meaning and now different people may choose different secondary meanings and that way there will be a subversion of what the what the vedas originally said so for example if someone says that i'm thirsty so now this is a statement which can be interpreted in multiple ways thirsty means do you need water do you need lemon water or do you need some cold drink or a hot drink or you know if the person is alcoholic do you need alcohol so now this is a statement which can be i'm thirsty depend now if the person is speaking that in the familiar context i'm thirsty normally would mean i need water but if the like the reader and the if the hearer and the speaker come from two different cultural contexts and say if a person is a living if the hearer is living in a consumer culture where most of the food is artificial food marketed by the food giants then that person normal conception would be that the thirst is quenched not by water but by some soft drink maybe some soda or something like that some coffee or whatever so this is a secondary interpretation so this is so what happens is when people bring their own cultural conceptions into the interpretation of scripture then they distort scripture because they don't they can't find out or they don't let themselves find out and they don't let the world know what was the self-evident meaning now how do we know the self-evident meaning normally speaking we when we speak also it is not that there are some special occasions when we use some irony when maybe we use some literary devices when we speak a figurative language but in general what we speak is meant for communication and understanding by others and accordingly we speak in a way that the meaning is clear so if the if you start interpreting if some others are interpreting every statement that we make then there will be a lot of complication that will happen in communication not only complication there will be distortion also happening and now Shri Prabhupada quotes in the reports about how quotes Madhavacharya's commentary on the Vedanta Sutra 216 as he quote where Madhavacharya quotes in the Bhagavad Gita Purana about what are the scriptures so so the Rig, Yajur, Sama and Atharva the four Vedas so the Mahabharata and the Pancharatras Pancharatras and the Moola Ramayanam Chaiva along with the Moola Ramayana these are all considered Vedas now Puranani Chai Vaishnavani so especially the Vaishnav Puranas, the Satvi Puranas which are the Brahma Vyavarta Purana, the Naradiya Purana, the Vishnu Purana, the Bhagavad Purana these are the Vaishnav Puranas, this is Puranani Chai Vaishnavani Vidho Vidho same word that Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has used in this discussion so this is also coming in the Shastra it's coming here in Bhagavad Gita Purana that all these are self-evident authorities and there is no need for speculation in these in this actually their authority is self-evident and there should not be any speculation about their authority so then if the speculation one should not counter their authority by one's own speculation now Shaitanya Mahaprabhu comes to one of the strongest blows to Sarvabhauma's position strongest rhetorical blows here Vyasa Sutre Artha so here Shaitanya Mahaprabhu is keeping a personal vision of the Sutras by using by repeating usually the word Vyasa Sutra by repeatedly using the word Vyasa Sutra instead of Brahma Sutra or Vedanta Sutra he is reminding that this is actually written by Vyasa so Vyasa Sutre Artha so it is self-effulgent like the rays of the sun that commentary which is imagined by one soul that is like it is like the cloud that covers the true import of the scripture so just as the sun when it is obscured by clouds cannot be seen by observers from below similarly the concocted commentaries they obscure or they obstruct they deprive the hearers of scripture the an understanding of the true importance of scripture so the commentary is meant to illuminate what scripture says but the commentary here is the concocted commentary it obscures and what scripture says therefore thereby it ends up misleading its hearers Vedapurana kahe brahma nirupan so now Shaitanya Mahaprabhu is going into further argument Vedapurana kahe brahma nirupan so now he goes in Vedapurana kahe Vedapurana what do they say brahma nirupan they do explanation of they explain what is brahma brahma refers to the highest truth and say brahma and now he's not explaining how the conception of brahma as the absolute truth is related with the conception of the absolute truth as a person as a personal controller so he says say brahma so the word brahma comes from the root briha which means to expand so brihad is that which is large say brahma brihadvastu so this brahma is a huge expansive thing what it means is you know brahman is the all-pervading effulgence but then he further says ishwara lakshana this is actually a characteristic of the ishwara this is the characteristic of the personal manifestation of the absolute truth and this way Shaitanya Mahaprabhu is now taking the discussion from the strategy for understanding scripture to the import of the.