How can there be stool and urine in the spiritual world?
From Mukunda Pr:
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Thank you so much.
Question from Mukund Prabhu based on Srimad Bhagavatam 5.5.33 Parpot. How can there be stool and urine in spiritual world? I read that spiritual bodies don’t even have blood or sweat. Then how can there be stool and urine? Does it apply to Krishna also? Answer.
I was expecting this question when I posted this quote. In the spiritual world, whatever is required for enhancing the pastimes and the rasa of those pastimes is there. So, it is not that the body has foul smelling substances coming out of it.
It is not that the body has any control over the person. It is not that the body forces a person to do something which basically the person wouldn’t want to do normally. Everything there is for the sake of enhancing rasa.
Srila Prabhupada in this parpot is drawing out the point, emphasizing, the emphasis of the point is not that there is stool and urine in the spiritual world. The emphasis of the point is that whatever is there in the spiritual world is transcendentally pleasing. And here, it is described that when he passed stool, even that was fragrant.
So now, if you look at specific pastimes, we will see that there are cows in the spiritual world. Now, cows give various products. So, cows give milk.
And Krishna drinks that milk. So, will the cows not give dung? Will the cows not give urine? Cow dung and cow urine are integral part of village culture. So, in Vrindavan, there are many references to cow dung and cow urine.
So, gomutra is used in sacred activities also. So, Gopal Champu also has many references to this cow dung and basically the whole cow culture when he talks about Vrindavan. So, if cows give cow dung, then what does that mean? That means that there are at least some animals which do give dung and urine.
So, do all animals do that? There is no explicit reference that I have read about yes or no. But, your point is well taken that there is nothing messy, nothing dirty, nothing smelly, nothing that will bring misery in the spiritual world. But, if for a particular pastime, for enhancing the rasa, certain thing is required, then that will be manifested by Krishna.
It is not that everybody in the spiritual world has to forcibly respond to the calls of nature because there is no material nature over there. Everything is transcendental and spiritual over there. So, in that sense, there is no nothing of the foulness that is associated with many of the bodily activities there.
But, the point is of rasa over here. Whatever is there is so extraordinary that it is attractive, that it is charming, that it is attention capturing and that applies even to whatever is there which in this material world is so perverted and distorted like stool and urine. So, we have to understand the focus of the point.
The focus is that everything is attractive, everything is enhancing the demonstration of the extraordinariness of Krishna and Krishna Leela. So, rather than agonizing over the point that whether stool is there or not, whatever is required for the rasa of for enhancing the rasa of Krishna’s pastimes is there and if in certain pastimes, like cow dung and cow urine is required, that is there. If other things are required, they are also manifested.
But, there is no compulsion, no force of nature which makes people do what they don’t want to do. That is not there in the spiritual world definitely.