How does the soul come under the influence of material nature?

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thank you the question is it is said in the Mahabharata it comes to existence immediately between nature so how does our material nature come about how does it come to us so firstly I am not going to go into all of which you have shown the important point over here is when we come when we are in existence this is the place where matter and materiality is the predominant environment and those proposals when we start accepting them they create rules in our mind and then we start acting accordingly so we have certain natures which may be our spiritual nature but according to our spiritual nature but then we desire to do that only way we start interacting with material and those spiritual impressions and the mind starts acting around material impressions now specifically where in the Puranjanapakhyam it is said that whatever Puranjana’s wife did, he did his wife got up, he got up his wife sat down, he sat down so what that refers to is the soul’s misidentification with matter that means that we start that means we start accepting the mind’s desire with our desire that’s just, Puranjana’s metaphor is quite complex, I won’t go into that right now it’s surprising to say that the the there, the wife is compared to the intelligence it’s interesting not compared to the mind it’s compared to intelligence, why? because when intelligence is persuaded then we start acting accordingly so then what will happen? we will get this buddhi naksha then there is naksha so what happens is the the soul identifies with material and acts accordingly a simple example you can do this that there is a person watching TV or watching a movie when there are two things that happen one is lights go off and lights go on lights are on, go off and the light on the mind goes off, so the lights going on is avadha naksha again I am this one, again I am part of Krishna and the light going on is prakshiva naksha and consciousness goes towards the body so what happens? first there is forgetfulness of natural nature and then there is infatuation with the mental nature and then I further let’s read this verse karakara karthu purusha whatever happens in the material nature is because of the mind but the soul’s experimentation with the mind is because of the soul’s desire for the mind that means whatever is happening on the movie screen that is made by the director and that is part of the movie plot but if I just close my eyes and watch the movie that is not what happens in the movie but because I have the desire to enjoy the movie so what happens? purusha sukha dukkhana bhaktutve eti bhaktutve because I have the desire to enjoy that movie and I am watching it and the hero is being beaten by the villain that’s what is happening the hero is not beating the villain so sukha dukkhana so what is happening is that we because of the desire to enjoy there is, now in this particular example who has created the movie is the mind’s past program which has created the movie and we identify with it and we start acting about it so rather than bothering how it happened for the first time what we can focus on now understand how it happens now based on our past indulgences past intuitions the program is being created right now and because of what we think because of the desire to enjoy, we get it right so what is the way out? turn that light off and turn the lights on what does that mean? that means what Krishna is saying over here first, he says just observe the mind don’t get carried away by it that means observe don’t get caught up in the illusion just realize ok this illusion is coming and that is not the complete solution because I can’t just keep observing all the time I have to do something else now that means turn off that light over there this is not reality, this is not who I am this is not actual emotions, you understand that? but then I also need to know what are my actual emotions and that’s why this section concludes with maam ji bodhicharya bhakti yogyamasya become fixed in your own consciousness so the real solution is not just observing yourself in your own mind the real solution is engaging in bhakti but when, while we are engaging in bhakti the mind starts dragging us away then we observe the mind and then we again engage in bhakti and that way we can resist the mind and get what it wants thank you very much