If we are following the principles to be initiated but have to wait for long in queue does Krishna see us as initiated or uninitiated?

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Question Question If we have Accepted a spiritual master But still now the initiation Has not been performed It is also said that initiation is essential So Is that status Of Having accepted a spiritual master but not being initiated Is that considered to be like initiated state Or what is it? See there is There are technicalities and there are principles So The technicalities are not unimportant But the principle is Far more important So ultimately the purpose of Initiation and the essence of spiritual Life is that We surrender to Krishna Now The Ceremony of initiation Is meant to formalize Our surrender to Krishna And that formalization Is important At the same time There may be many people who may formally initiated But they may not have a surrendered spirit So the key thing is That the surrendered spirit be there So we have done See in our approaching Krishna There is one Something for us to do Something for Krishna to do So if we have expressed our Willingness to be initiated If we are following the principles strictly Then we have done our part And Krishna Will do his part in due course So it is not that suppose Some devotee may feel that It is important to be initiated but what if I If I die before I get initiated and I am waiting for initiation From my Guru what will happen to me You have to know that at the time of death Krishna is going to check the state Of our heart He is not going to check the Attendance roster to check whether we were We were present at a particular Ceremony or not So if We are practicing the purpose of bhakti diligently If we are cultivating surrendered consciousness Then for all practical For all essential purposes We are initiated So certainly we can have the eagerness to be Initiated and we can do all That is possible for us to Become initiated But we should not think that The initiation Is something Which is simply The ritual, simply the ceremony Initiation itself Is a disposition of the heart And if we have the disposition of the heart The formalization of the ceremony will happen In due course But the disposition is what is important And ultimately What will lead to our advancement in bhakti Is the increase of our surrender Increase our commitment to practice bhakti So say somebody has been Practicing bhakti for 7-8 years Or 5-6 years And they are waiting for initiation Somebody else comes in and they practice bhakti for 1 year And they get initiated Now from the external Institutional point of view, one person is not yet initiated The other is initiated But does it mean that the first person is not advanced And the second person is advanced It could be if the second person has Already done a lot of bhakti in the previous life And they are just moving forward from there But it is not just the Whether there is a Das or Dasi At the end of one’s name that determines One’s spiritual advancement So We need to take initiation From a spiritual master Who inspires us to commit To the practice of bhakti And if we are In our surrender to the spiritual master We are committed to the practice of bhakti Then the Initiation ritual is simply A matter of time It will happen And If there are emergencies The spiritual master also expedites sometimes Suppose somebody has got a terrible disease They are going to undergo a major surgery Whether they will survive or not is not clear The spiritual master expedites There are many cases where initiation is also given So the point is that The Ceremony itself is important But the important thing is the commitment And if commitment is there Then we can see this in terms of a reciprocation Not a specific technicality There is something which Krishna We do in a relationship, there is something which Krishna has to do So now if we have done our part Then Krishna is going to note that That is what is in our power And if we are doing whatever is in our power Then we are well situated