In your OMG book what do you mean when we say that the rejection of all material representations will lead to the rejection of Krishna himself as material representation?
From Panca Pandava P
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in your oh my god book you mentioned that if we are to reject all material representations of god then rejected all material representations of god then when Krishna came to rescue him on his bike he would have had to push away Krishna also because he would have considered Krishna also to be a material representation of Krishna what exactly do you mean by this answer when we want to conceive god at present the things that we see as well as the thought that we think they are also material with our eyes we can see material things and our mind is also material so what we think about is also material therefore now in the abrahamic religions the idea is that we should not have any material conception of god, any material representation of god so if we don’t have any material representation of god then we will never know what god is because we can’t perceive spiritual reality right now the only reality that we can perceive right now is material so if there are no material representations of god we will have absolutely no conception of what god looks like so now in the oh my god movie when when when this akshay kumar comes as Krishna to rescue kanji bhai at that time kanji bhai is in danger and just escapes the hell and they flee from there and when when that the motorcycle driver is Krishna or he introduces himself as Krishna, kanji bhai simply thinks that he is bluffing but later on in the movie finally when kanji bhai gets the heart attack falls unconscious and then is on the verge of death is declared sure to die and then is miraculously restored to health by Krishna at that time kanji bhai is stunned by the miracle but then this, in that movie Krishna reveals himself in the form of Krishna till then he is just looking like a good looking modern youth so at that time kanji bhai accepts that this is Krishna and so the point is how does he know that this is Krishna because somewhere he has read somewhere he has heard that Krishna looks like this Krishna wears a peacock Krishna plays a flute Krishna has this complexion so where has he heard this he has heard it from the culture which has derived that knowledge from the scriptures now if we are going to carry this phobia of matter phobia of material representation of God which is characterized by certain thought systems then because of this phobia what will happen is any description of God will be any description of God will be rejected as material representation so that means whatever is described in the scripture will also be rejected as a material representation and even if somebody appears in front of a sceptic exactly according to scriptural description then even that appearance whatever that is the person will be forced to reject that also as a material representation because what is going to happen is that whatever we will be able to see will inevitably have to be material because our vision can only see material things so if our vision can see only material things then even if God actually himself comes in front of us if we have this phobia for material representations of God we will think that whatever I am seeing is material and therefore this is a material representation of God and therefore we will have to reject that that means if we just carry on this phobia for material representations of God relentlessly to an extreme then even when God himself comes we will reject God as a material representation instead of understanding him to be God so it is something similar to if a person says that if a person comes up with a wrong criteria for say deciding whether a note is genuine or not if somehow the person decides that okay a 500 rupee note that is genuine if I tear it it will not get torn if such a person comes with such a criteria then say if he gets false notes he will be able to say okay these are torn so they are not true but even if he gets a true note what will happen is he will tear that and say this is also false so there is a difference between false and true there are coreal notes and fake notes there is a difference but the criteria for determining which is the fake note and which is the correct note has to be correctly asserted that criteria is not tearing up the note to check there are certain markings, there are certain symbols, there are experts and we can also get the knowledge by which we can look at a note in the light look at a word, see there is a particular line present, whatever different countries have different conventions of making sure of authenticity but the point is we have to know the right criteria for deciding which is fake and which is genuine if we come across a wrong if we ourselves develop a wrong criteria and by that wrong criteria we end up rejecting the wrong but along with that we end up rejecting the right also as the wrong so that is what happens so in the conclusion of the OMG movie they show that the locket of Krishna is also thrown away by Kanchipuram because that is also considered to be a form of Moorthy period idol worship so he rejects that, so the point which I make from that from that throwing away of that locket is that ok if he is thrown away the locket because that is a material representation of Krishna, why is he calling that a material representation because he was able to touch it because it is an object that he can keep with him but then he was able to within the storyline of the movie when Krishna appeared he was able to touch Krishna also, he was able to talk with Krishna also so was that representation of Krishna not material if a locket has to be rejected because it is material then when Krishna appeared he was also perceivable for Kanchipuram with his material eyes, with his material hands, with his material ears then he would have, if he has to have the consistency of logic if he is going to reject the locket because it is a material representation then he will have to reject even Krishna himself because that Krishna also has manifested through a material representation and in that way he, this idea that we have to reject all material representations will make, will create a permanent disconnection between humanity and God because humanity can perceive any material things at the present level of consciousness we can’t perceive anything so just as there can be a wrong criteria for discerning between fake and genuine currency notes, similarly the wrong criteria for discerning between idol worship and B.T. worship is to reject all material representations but the correct criteria is to see whether those representations are made according to scriptures whether Pranapakrishna has been performed, whether they are being worshipped with devotion then we can understand that Krishna is manifesting through B.T.s so essentially by the rejection of all material representations then even when God himself appears, God will have to be rejected of the material representation and will create a permanent permanent disconnection between man and God and that is what happens in many ways because of this phobia for material