Is Krishna situated in the mind or the heart – how are the two related?

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thank you so is the mind or the heart the generator of feelings and is Krishna situated in the mind or in the heart yeah as I said that first of all let’s clarify terms the word mind refers to a component of the subtle body the soul there is the gross body in between the subtle body there is mind, intelligence and ego within that there is the mind as one component and in that sense the mind is a thing subtle thing but it is still a thing now as far as the heart is concerned the term heart is sometimes used in a literal way and sometimes in a non-literal way literally it may refer to the physical organ, biological organ heart say I have got a heart attack that means the heart is getting damaged not working properly so when we talk about, especially in devotional circles we talk about the heart my heart is impure that doesn’t mean that there is impurity in the heart we are referring to the word heart in a non-literal way now non-literal does not necessarily mean that that the heart is not a thing to be considered so the heart is basically the seat of emotions so in that sense we could say because the soul is the source of consciousness so it is the soul and the heart are the same, if the soul were not present then there will be no emotions there will be no consciousness at all so at one level we could say that the soul and the heart are the same but at another level the soul’s consciousness presently is channeled through the subtle body and we could say primarily it is a devotional faculty, it is channeled through the mind so in that sense our heart is presently situated at the level where the mind is the soul has emotions related with Krishna but many of those emotions may be dormant right so let’s start with some people who are materialistic their soul is not having any emotions in relationship with Krishna right now, their consciousness is entirely invested in the mind and through the mind they are seeing the whole world it’s like say some people start playing a virtual reality game where their eyes are glued to the screen and sometimes people may have some contraptions also, they have some kind of camera or something, they can’t see anything else, there is a screen over there, their eyes are here and there is like a funnel or something like that which just takes them, focus only on that screen and they don’t see anything else like that in the sadhaka in the conditioned stage this person can see other things also but at that stage they can see only that so like that the soul has the faculty for spiritual consciousness but at present the soul can see only can only be materially conscious so in the sankhya literature there is a difference between chit and chitta the atma is satchitananda so chit consciousness is a faculty of the soul but that pure consciousness of the soul is not perceivable at all right now chitta is the consciousness projected in the material world chitta, chit, the pure consciousness of the soul is channeled into the material world and that is called chitta krishna says that consciousness is the characteristic of the soul, but then same krishna in the bhagavad gita also says in 13th chapter that in 13.6 and 7 he is talking about sankhya and 13.7 he says that iccha dvesha sukham dukkham sanghatas chetanadruti etat kshetram samasena salikaram udharutam so he says desire, aversion happiness, distress and consciousness these are transformations of kshetra they are transformations of material nature so consciousness is not a product of material nature and why is krishna saying that chetana is a transformation of material nature he is talking about the conditioned consciousness so why is it the soul is pure the soul will love any food that is offered to krishna but the soul in a south indian body will be attracted when there is idli and the soul in a punjabi body will be attracted when there is paratha so why is that the soul is attracted to krishna but the soul’s consciousness is currently channeled through its conditioned mind so chitta is the consciousness as it is channeled through the subtle body so mostly for us in the conditioned stage it is only chitta that is accessible in sadhaka stage also unless you become sadhaka the chitta the soul’s pure consciousness is not accessible that means when a person is playing a video game they can’t remove that contraption they can only see whatever is on the video game screen like that currently we can see only through the mind so that’s why at present we can say our heart is situated at the level of the mind that means whatever are the impressions in the mind based on that we experience emotions so if somebody has never heard of krishna although even their soul has the potential to purely love krishna but when they come to the temple they may feel no emotion because in their mind there is no impression related with krishna but for somebody who has become purified their mind becomes more and more krishnaized then they have a lot of emotion related with krishna and when they become completely purified at that time the soul leaves the material body all the material elements that are there they merge into the universal covering elements and then the pure soul goes back to krishna so at that time the soul’s natural emotionality becomes awakened so in the ultimate sense the soul and the heart are the same but while we are in the embodied state we can say the mind and the heart are the same because the heart is the seat of emotions and in our embodied state most of our emotions or almost all of our emotions are experienced based on the impressions in the mind does that answer your question? thank you