Is the doer the ego as Gita 18.58 states or the modes as Gita 3.27 states?

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Hare Krishna question from Raj is it that the ego is the suggester and impeller of wrong doings or is it material nature the 18.58 tells us that don’t hear the ego but then 3.27 says that it is material nature that is the doer so who exactly is the doer answer the the non spiritual side of us which impels us to do certain things ultimately comes as material nature because apart we are a we are a composite unit right now our present existence the soul along with that there is the body so now there is a force which comes which impels us to do certain actions which is different from our original pure desire of the soul so then where does that come from that in general comes from material nature and depending on the specific nature of the desire it can be talked about more specifically so for example we shouldn’t think that ego being the impeller and material nature being the impeller they are two different things this is the one thing itself because it is material nature of which ego is a part now 3.27 states that prakriti kriyamanani gunai karmani sarvasah ahankara vimudhatma kartaham iti manyate so there if we see that the point is it is material nature’s modes are acting but then also the word there uses ahankara so that how do the modes make us act it is by creating ahankara by stimulating our false ego ahankara vimudhatma kartaham iti manyate so here ahankara is used as the as the conception in the soul which makes the soul think that I am the doer when material nature is actually the doer so the literal translation is prakriti kriyamanani gunai karmani sarvasah everything is done by prakriti ahankara vimudhatma but a soul deluded by ahankara kartaham iti manyate thinks that I am the doer so here the point is material nature is the source of action and ego is said to be the source of the delusion of the misidentification of the ascription of action to oneself now if you look at 18.58 what is Krishna saying machittah sarva durgani mat prasadah tarishyasi atachetam ahankara nashrosyasi vinangshyasi there also the word is ahankara so if you don’t hear me if you hear your ego then you will be lost that means what the ego will be the means by which you will become a puppet of material nature and don’t become a puppet of material nature in fact if you see the next verse 18.59 and 60 that talks about how actually we are bound by material nature krishna says yada ahankara maashitya no yotsyati manyasi mithyesha vyavasayaste prakriti stvam niyokshati if you don’t hear me if you take shelter of your ahankara then material nature will engage you so we have to be servants if we don’t agree to be servants of krishna we think we can be independent then we end up becoming dependent on material nature we become servants puppets of material nature so on one side is krishna the soul can either serve the church choose to serve krishna or the soul chooses to act independently and the soul ends up becoming a puppet of material nature and the delusion which makes the soul think that dependence on material nature is independence is ahankara so it’s not that ahankara and modes are two different things they are they are parts of the same material nature which makes the soul dance like a puppet when the soul desires to be an independent doer independent of krishna thank you what is the form of the soul