What are the destinations of those who realize Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan?
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So what is the destination of those who realize Brahman, Paramatma or Bhagwan? It depends. If the those who realize Brahman continue pursuing spiritual life, they don’t think that this is the termination, then if they get the association of devotees, they can also rise higher and they can also get Bhagwan realization. Those who get Bhagwan realization, they go to the Bhagwat Tham.
They go to the spiritual world, to Vaikuntha, to Yodhya, to Goloka, one of the planets in the spiritual world for eternal life of the Supreme Lord. Those who realize the Brahman, if they also continue practicing spiritual life, then if they get association of devotees, they can also go to Bhagwan realization. That’s what happened with Shukadeva Swami and the Kumaras.
The Paramatmavadis, they also, if they get the association of devotees and they understand that this absolute truth whom I am meditating on is the is actually my Lord, my worshipable Lord and I am meant to be devoted to Him, then they can also eventually get elevated to the spiritual world. Quite often because the Paramatmavadis’ mode of meditation is passive. Dhyana vastita tadgate namanasa vashanti yam yogino They go to Dhyan and meditate on the Supreme Lord.
So, because their mode of meditation is passive, quite often they will get Shantaras in the spiritual world. They will become trees in the spiritual world, where they can get to meditate on the beauty of the Lord, on the glory of the Lord. The Paramatma… So, the Paramatmavadis can also go down.
Chaitanya Charita Amrit explains this that if the Paramatmavadis on seeing the Paramatma think that I am that Paramatma, if they understand that the Paramatma is my eternal Lord, then they will attain Vaikuntha, the spiritual world. But if they think that I am the Paramatma, then they will go to the Brahman level of realization. And once they go to the Brahman level of realization, that means they go to… not Brahman level, they go to Brahma Jyoti.
And in the Brahma Jyoti, the soul who goes there, the soul does not realize the full potential for love and interpersonal relationships. So, the souls who are attracted to the impersonal effulgence, they go to the Brahman Jyoti. But, if the souls who are attracted to the impersonal effulgence, they become offensive of Bhagawan.
Those who are attracted to Brahman, they will go to Brahman. In 12.3 and 4, Krishna says, They also attain Krishna. They attain Krishna in the Brahman manifestation.
But, this is a very difficult process. Krishna says in the next verse, There is a lot of clash. How to concentrate on the impersonal? The only thing to think is that there is nothing to think.
Because they think all thought is based on material conceptions. And we have to go beyond material conceptions. So, it’s very difficult, that process.
Now, if those who are seeking impersonal effulgence, if they become offensive to Bhagawan, if they start thinking that, oh, this Bhagawan is just a transitory reality. And that, ultimately, Bhagawan is also a product of Maya. The conception of a form is Maya.
And we have to go beyond Maya. We have to go beyond the form. So, they offend the form of the Lord.
Then, that becomes a problem. Then, their decision can be very inauspicious. In general, the impersonalists, depending on their conception of the Absolute Truth, they can attain Brahman.
If they are not offensive to the Supreme Lord, the personal aspect of the Absolute Truth. Does it answer your question? Any other questions?