What exactly does Krishna sanction – how?
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or how does he sanction? Well, give the example of a judge. When a person is, say, charged with a particular crime, in the prosecutorial process, this person has committed this crime, and then maybe there is a defendant who says, no, they have not committed this crime, and then the judge passes a sentence after hearing both of them. This is like a very it is a bit drawn out process with discrete elements involved over there.
It is a defendant, there is a prosecutor, and there is a judge, and then the judge sanctions, this prosecutor sentence is accepted, this person will be punished. But now, if this, if we could sort of condense this process a little bit, then we would have something like Krishna, without, unless he sanctions, material nature does not act. So, material nature is, when Krishna sanctions, it is that he is the ultimate authority.
So, material nature sanctions, and then based on that sanction, material nature executes. So, yeah, Krishna sanctions, we desire Krishna sanctions. So, this is more in terms of our routine functions.
Right now, I want to speak. So, I desire to speak, Krishna sanctions, and then material nature through the throat, sound is produced, then speak. This is, so how is, by how, what do you mean? Are you asking for a mechanism or? Krishna is present in our heart, and he is the controller of, it is Paramatma, of course.
Krishna is, as Bhagavan is not involved in any of these things. For practical purposes, when we are talking about any functions associated with material nature, it is Krishna as Paramatma. It is, Krishna says, maya dhyakshena prakruti, means I am, I am the supervisor, material nature is working under my supervision.
Now, Krishna in Vrindavan is just enjoying with the Vrajavasis. He is not supervising material nature. In that way, when he is doing that, he is referring to the Supersoul or some other Vishnu manifestations.
Yeah. Okay. Is material nature within us? Not exactly.
When we say, when we are referring to material nature over here, we are basically referring to the, okay, let us take one step backwards here. We are basically referring to the point that the soul and matter are two different entities. Soul is spiritual, matter is of a different nature.
And one of the problems in physics, which, one of the reasons why scientists find it difficult to accept the idea of a soul, is that they say that, that the material world or material nature, as they call it, is causally complete. Causally complete means, if I see a particular event happening, I can describe its cause in material terms. So, I do not need to posit any non-material cause for it.
Like there, I say, this ball went into the hole. Now, why did the ball go into the hole? Because this ball hit this ball. I can explain it in terms of material causes.
I do not need any non-material cause. That is what they feel. So, they say, if there is a soul, if material nature is acting according to the law of physics, and the soul is non-material, then how will that soul act at the material level? And the interaction between matter and spirit is what is very problematic for Western philosophy to understand.
And because of that, they say that it is not possible. As I said, they reject the idea of a soul primarily. Now, our understanding is that, yes, it is not the soul who directly interacts with matter.
It is soul who interacts with super-soul. The super-soul is the controller of both, is the lord of the soul and the lord of matter. So, it is the super-soul.
So, when we desire, we cannot control matter directly. But it is we desire and the super-soul can control matter and when he sanctions, then material nature acts the way we want it to act. So, when I want to speak in a particular way, suppose I get a sore throat, it is my throat still, but I will not be able to speak.
But when my throat is in a good condition, then I am able to speak. You have to do a different