When does the soul enter into the picture during cloning?
1. Does the Sperm and the Ovum have a Soul….if yes 2. How do 2 souls combine to become 1………..if not 3. When does the Soul enter the embryo or more precise the Zygote or is it that the Soul triggers the union……if yes 4. Arent Scientist by the process of Cloning forcing the Supreme Lord to let forward a Soul in a Body artificially created
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Question from Ashish Prabhu. Does the sperm and the ovum have a soul each? If yes, how do two souls combine to become one? If not, when does the soul enter the embryo or more precisely the zygote? Or is it that the soul triggers the union? If yes, aren’t scientists by the process of cloning forcing the Supreme Lord to let forward a soul in a body artificially created? Answer. Firstly, the Srimad Bhagavatam is quite clear about how the process of birth occurs in the standard way.
Describe. This comes in 3.31.1. So, pumsa refers to soul. Reta is the semen.
Kana, a particle of the semen. So, normally speaking, the soul is present in the semen. And through the semen, the soul enters into the female womb where it unites with the egg and produces the zygote.
So, normally speaking, within the biological process, when there is union and conception, many sperms will be injected into the female body. But it is a perilous journey from the medical point of view by which only a particular limited number of sperms, usually not even one, and occasionally one whenever the successful conception occurs, reaches the egg and impregnates the egg. So, when the sperm and the egg unite, then the particular combined entity, the zygote, starts growing.
So, the growth occurs because of the presence of the soul. So, it is not that there are two separate souls present in the egg and the sperm. Rather, the soul enters through the sperm into the combined entity that results by the combination of the sperm and the female egg.
That is the zygote. And things move forward from there. So, regarding cloning, we have to understand that what the Bhagavatam tells is a standard process.
But it is not the exclusive process. So, in general, the Bhagavad Gita is very clear that the souls are Sarvagataha. The souls are present everywhere.
In the sense that they have the potentiality to live everywhere. And the souls are searching for proper bodies. So, whenever the soul gets an opportunity to get a new suitable biochemical medium where it can get a body, it enters into that body.
So, now when scientists do cloning, essentially they are using more than 95% of the same process that nature has created. Scientists don’t create a separate womb. Scientists don’t create a separate system for nourishment of the child in the womb.
All that they do is, before the union, they remove the nucleus from one of the cells to be united. So that the entity that is created by the union, say the male cell, suppose a male is to be cloned, then the male cell that is taken and is united artificially in external environment with the female cell, at that time, the nucleus is zapped out of the female cell. And then the two are mixed together artificially.
And then that entity is put inside the body. So, now usually when cloning has to occur, scientists do sometimes thousands of trials for one cloning to work out. So, now why is it that thousands of efforts go in vain and only one particular effort works? The general reason would be that there can be unforeseen or unforeseeable errors possible in the whole process of cloning.
And the whole process is so subtle and complex, the scientists will say that we cannot control it. It is true, they cannot control it. But they also don’t recognize that there is one factor which is not at all in their control and that is the entry of the soul.
So, it is not that scientists are forcing the soul to enter at that particular time. Rather, the soul has the natural urge to enter into a body. And the Lord guides the soul to enter into that particular body if the karma is right.
That means the biochemical environment which will eventually become the body of that particular soul has to be suitable for the soul to enter. And then after that, the body will grow with the presence of the soul. And as it grows, it will grow into a healthy or malformed or short-lived being depending on the kind of karmic entailments that are there for that particular soul.
So, it is not exactly a matter of force. It is a matter of creating a suitable biochemical medium in which the soul acquires a body. So, the scientists can take credit as far as it is due.
That means, yes, at a microscopic level, they zap out the nucleus and then they do whatever is necessary to unite the two in an artificial way. But subsequent reproduction is entirely in natural ways. Reproduction in terms of the growth of the child in the womb, of the zygote, is happening more or less by natural process.
So, therefore, it is not at all like creating life or forcing a soul to enter into the body. But rather creating a biochemical medium thousands of times and thinking that by chance one of those have worked out right. But not knowing that it is by the sanction of the Lord that one particular soul who has a compatible karma enters into the body at that particular time and gets that body.
Thank you.