When knowledge comes easier than faith, why does CC say that faith develops in the madhyama stage and knowledge in the uttama stage?
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thank you Hare Krishna a question based on matter of instruction the Kanishit Adhikari has little faith and little knowledge the Madhyam Adhikari has faith but not so much knowledge and the Uttam Adhikari has faith as well as knowledge normally we see that our knowledge increases faster than our faith then why is it said that it is the Uttam Adhikari who has knowledge and the Madhyam Adhikari doesn’t have knowledge the Madhyam Adhikari has faith so when faith normally takes more time to grow than knowledge then why is it said that in the Madhyama faith develops first and knowledge develops later when the Madhyama becomes Uttam Adhikari answer this knowledge which is being talked about is not just theoretical knowledge it is actually transformational knowledge application knowledge and transformational knowledge so if you look at what Chaitanya Mahaprabhu says in Chaitanya Charita Amrit he is saying that the Madhyama has faith which has been developed from the Kanishita stage upwards by the practice of devotion service but as far as Shastra Yukti is concerned the logical analysis of the vast variety of scriptures and their application in specific context the Madhyama does not have so much experience and knowledge to do that the Uttama has that so what does this actually mean let’s consider the treatment metaphor to understand it when a person, all of us are in material existence which is like a bhava rog material world is like a hospital devotional service is like the treatment so now when a patient comes first to a hospital at that time the patient has neither knowledge nor faith about the treatment the patient doesn’t know how this treatment is going to work and the patient also doesn’t know whether the treatment will work, so there is no knowledge, no faith then after that when the patient after taking the treatment for some time finds the health improving then the patient understands, ok this is how it works this is how sorry the patient understands this treatment works that’s how the faith develops I have become healthier, my pain has decreased my symptoms have gone down so then the faith is there but there may be some basic knowledge ok I had this particular I had a stomach upset and this medicine cured the stomach upset, that is fine but the patient doesn’t know the anatomy of how the stomach upset is actually being cured so the Madhyama has experienced some Arthanivritti and has seen lust, anger, greed and because of that there is knowledge that the process works but beyond that there is no clear understanding of the internal mechanics of the process and because there is no understanding of the internal mechanics of the process so therefore it is said that the knowledge is not there but suppose after the patient gets substantially cured and the patient thinks this treatment is so wonderful not only do I want I am happy to be cured but I would like to help in curing others also then the patient starts thinking like a doctor and then starts investigating, maybe has to do further study get a degree and then the patient becomes a doctor, the patient not only has faith that this treatment works but also has knowledge ok this is how the treatment will work and then according the patient applies the knowledge and treats the patient has now become a doctor applies that knowledge and treats other patients, so that is the Uttamadhikari stage in this particular analysis, Uttamadhikari here not only has faith that the process of Krishna consciousness purifies but also has knowledge of how that process of purification can be applied in specific contexts that requires experience, that requires realization that requires great wisdom it requires connection to the super soul also that is actual sign of an Acharya that at different times, different places, different circumstances how the process of Krishna consciousness to be applied so that there is transformation, so one aspect of transformation is also different people will come with different kinds of misconceptions, so some of the misconceptions may be intellectual, some of them may be cultural, some of them may be socio-political whatever misconceptions they have the Acharya has to, the Uttam Bhagwat Uttamadhikari is expert enough to counter those misconceptions and based on scripture but applied according to time and place circumstances this expertise is something which takes time to count, so that is why it is said that just as for a patient to develop faith in the medical treatment takes time but for the patient to develop knowledge by which the treatment can be applied to other patients that will take even greater time so similarly for a Kanishta to come to Madhyama level and develop faith in the process of Krishna consciousness takes time but it takes greater time to get the knowledge by which by which the Kanishta from the Madhyama will now become a Uttama can teach others that process and apply it in a life, apply it in their lives in a way that is positively transformational.