When Lord Chaitanya destroys demonic mentality, not demons, why did the person who threatened devotees constructing the Juhu temple die?
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Question. In Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s pastimes, it is said that he doesn’t kill people.
He is the avatar who doesn’t kill demons, but he destroys demoniac tendencies within people. Yet we see that Mr. N who owned the Jehu property initially didn’t become devoted but died. So there is no such pastime in Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s Leela.
Then why in Prabhupada’s Leela? Answer. There are three different distinct points over here. First is that Prabhupada did not make it like a shastric statement where it was in a casual conversation.
Prabhupada might have made certain statements about Mr. N. So was it that because he was oppositional to Prabhupada and the building of the Jehu temple that’s why he died. We don’t know that. It’s very very difficult to postulate particular causal connections like that.
There are so many people who at different times may oppose Krishna’s mission for different reasons and say there were some people who accused the devotees of brainwashing people in America and some of those people they might have been well-intentioned but they were misinformed. Sometimes our devotees themselves might have done something which were objectionable and which inflamed passions. The important thing here to understand is that things happen in the material world in different ways and Krishna’s will is also difficult to understand.
So material nature itself, how things happen, gahana karmanogati and beyond that Krishna’s will is such that as Bhishma Pitamah says even the rishis, sages, can’t know what his will is. So therefore we have to be very very cautious when we postulate any at a philosophical level, as a sadhna we postulate the causal link between a particular event and a particular anti-devotional activity as causing a particular adversity or particular thing to happen in a particular person’s life who is opposing that devotional activity. So that’s the first point.
Second point is that that Lord Chaitanya himself came as a brahmana and he did not fight to he did not take up weapons, he did not use the Sudarshan chakra at least he was told by Nityanand Prabhu don’t use the Sudarshan chakra. So that is true from that contextual perspective but we also have among the followers of Lord Chaitanya Lord Chaitanya was part of a culture and that culture had Kshatriyas. So Pratap Rudra himself did fight some wars at some times and as a king he had to fight and he was heroic so he didn’t claim that just because he was devotee of Lord Chaitanya so he wouldn’t have to fight at all or he would automatically win wars or his opponents would be miraculously destroyed all the time.
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu himself because he had descended as a Brahmana so as not as a Kshatriya so as a Brahmana and then on top of that as a Sanyasi he played a particular social role according to what was what the form that he had taken in this particular avatar and of course we can say that he is Mahavadanyaya he is merciful and he doesn’t kill demons that is true so as is demonstrated in the past time of Jagai and Madhai at the same time that doesn’t mean that Kshatriyas will no longer be readed in society and Kshatriyas have to act to defend so to say that Chaitanya Mahapurush past times there is absolutely no punishment of wrongdoers that is an over generalization that does not consider the context of Chaitanya Mahapurush past times and thirdly when we consider that the lord removes the impurities in the heart yes he removes but depending on how determined somebody is to misuse their free will the removal of impurities can take different amounts of time sometimes some impurities may take they may not be removed in this lifetime at all they may have to be done in the future lifetime that can happen even for those who are who are devoted what to speak of those who are against the devoted somebody might be devoted but like we have Jada Bharat Bharat Maharaj getting deviated and then leading three lives to attain perfection so the lord removing the demoniac mentality in people’s hearts is something which is which will happen but just because the lord is Mahavadanyaya is supremely merciful doesn’t mean that the lord takes away or overrides the free will of a living entity if a living entity doesn’t want to use the free will rightly then the lord will give that soul spiritual impressions and those spiritual impressions can be gradually used those spiritual impressions will be gradually acting to purify and transform that soul either in this life or a future life