When some organisms reproduce asexually doesnt this falsify Prabhupadas argument that mother nature cant produce offspring without the father God?
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question actually Prabhupada says that how can nature produce anything without the help of God and he gives the example of how can a mother produce anything without the father but we know that in nature there are organisms which reproduce asexually so isn’t this argument falsified by that answer there is the principle of stretching an analogy so any analogy if we stretch it will break down it’s like a rubber band a rubber band can help us to hold a thing but if we stretch the rubber band it breaks down so now we have to understand there are multiple principles applying at different situations so the general principle in nature is that there is breed whenever there is breeding there is union of two opposite genders and then that leads to breeding so organisms that reproduce asexually actually what they are doing is not really breeding it is simply cloning so there may be unicellular microorganisms which when they are in nutrient laden moisture they reproduce so that reproduction is not breeding that is simply cloning they just create xeroxes of themselves so these are exceptions and why are there asexual reproduction is not outside the scope of the vedic world view we are given various facilities in this world to enjoy according to our desires so sex is a facility for enjoyment, it is also of course a source of great infatuation and distraction in spiritual life but it is a facility for enjoyment and all facilities are given according to one’s karma and taken away according to one’s bad karma so those organisms who have used their free will in a grievously wrong way they have even the ability to enjoy sex taken away from them that means those souls who are in the body of asexually reproducing microorganisms those souls have misused their free will and very grievously that’s why now they don’t have the ability to enjoy so what this implies is this is a this is a extreme reaction to some extreme bad actions and this extreme action reaction is an exception to the general rule so when Srila Prabhupada is talking about the principle of nature and God both being needed for the sake of reproduction, he is talking about what is a universal principle but universal doesn’t mean that there will be absolutely no exceptions, now the exceptions are not outside the Vedic world view they are explained by the operation of some other principle the other principle is that according to the way we use or misuse what is given to us that will be given or taken away from us so we shouldn’t stretch the analogy Srila Prabhupada’s emphasis is that irrespective of what some minor exceptions might be, the general pattern is that nature requires activation so that principle does not get falsified because nature in and of itself if we are talking from biological perspective nature is just matter and matter is not conscious, because it is not conscious it will not reproduce on its own in fact it will not do anything so if we have buildings, buildings don’t reproduce on their own so when Srila Prabhupada is talking about nature not acting on its own he is essentially taking the concept from Sankhya school of thought which is one of the six systems of philosophy which basically says that Purusha and Prakriti their union produces all the changes in material nature and Prakriti is considered passive and Purusha is active so Prakriti is unconscious insentient, Purusha is conscious so when Prakriti acts and changes then that is because of the action of Purusha so the action of Purusha here is that Purusha is conscious and Purusha injects consciousness into Prakriti so the mother father example is given to talk of a much deeper philosophical principle the philosophical principle is that Purusha is conscious Prakriti is unconscious and nature in and of itself does not act in the ways that are necessary for reproduction for creation of new life, nature requires the activation of consciousness and that activation of consciousness comes from the supreme lord Krishna talks about this in 14.4 in the Bhagavad Gita that he is the seed giving father what is that seed that he gives that is consciousness he injects the conscious souls and that is how material nature gets activated he also injects the Kala Shakti the time energy by which material nature gets activated so there is a profound philosophical import behind the example and simplistically pointing out some evidence to try to disprove that principle actually is a way of exposing one’s own ignorance about the profound philosophical principles that are involved