Why is Lord Chaitanya not accepted as Lord Krishna by other sampradayas?

From: Annupriya

Hare Krishna Prabhuji! Kindly explain why Lord Chaitanya is not accepted & worshiped as Lord Krishna by other sampradays like sri sampraday & others even though the fact is so clearly revealed in so many scriptures including Mahapuran Srimad Bhagvatam.

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Question from Priya Kindly explain Why Lord Chaitanya is not accepted and Worshipped as Lord Krishna By other Sampradayas like Rishisri Sampradaya and others Even though the fact is So clearly revealed in so many scriptures Including Mahapuranshi and Bhagavatam Answer It is to some extent By the will of Lord Chaitanya That he is not Recognized By the other Sampradayas Because he himself came as a Channa Avatar, as a hidden incarnation So Knowing that Historically there would be a trend Of many people Claiming to be God Chaitanya Mahapur was God himself But he did not directly claim to be God Except on a few occasions When he was with intimate devotees Or on other special occasions He generally taught The process of devotional service Which will help people To make rapid spiritual advancement By chanting Hare Krishna So he has come to deliver people of Kali Yuga But the deliverance Is by practice of devotional service To the Supreme Lord So During Lord Chaitanya Mahapur’s lifetime Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Revealed to a few special occasions That he is God But the primary method That he taught is the chanting of the Holy Names So because the Lord came As a Channa Avatar and did not Emphasize his divinity We focus primarily On sharing his Process with others And as the devotees Follow the process Then they understand that actually The teacher of this process Is also the object of this process Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is not just The teacher of devotional service He is also the ultimate object of devotional service He is Lord Krishna However, it is the process of devotional service That purifies Our hearts And eventually liberates Us from material existence So If other Sampradayas are following The process of devotional service Then they will also make spiritual advancement If the faithful followers Of other Sampradayas May not go back to Goloka Vrindavan Because the Madhurya Bhakti The devotional service In conjugal love is a special gift That Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has brought to the world But still they can attain Vaikuntha And They can attain Liberation from material existence And attainment of eternal devotional service So The reality Is At the same time Both absolute as well as Individual or personal Just as In Ramlila Hanumanji Is completely satisfied Worshipping Lord Ram And he will not be attracted to Lord Krishna And there is no need to try to Force Hanumanji To start worshipping Lord Krishna So now If we want to analyse From an objective point of view Lord Krishna manifests 64 qualities Lord Krishna manifests The Madhurya Rasa in a very intimate way And The Vatsalya Rasa also Sakshaya Rasa also Which is not manifested by Lord Ram or Lord Vishnu But The devotees In Ramlila like Hanumanji They are completely satisfied in Worshipping Lord Ramchandra And that is the perfection for them The reality Is there in the spiritual realm also Similarly if we see Even in Vrindavan For that matter The different Different Devotees reciprocate in different ways With Krishna And Krishna manifests himself In the way that is best So The Vrajavasis Do not all see Krishna in the same way That means that To Nanda Maharaja Nishodamayi Krishna always appears As a As a small boy Whereas To the Gopis He appears as a Teenage boy As a youth As a fresh youth And the Gopis reciprocate Madhurya Rasa with him And Krishna, the same Krishna appears To the Devotees in Vatsalya Rasa Like Nishodamayi Nanda Maharaja As a small boy So How does this happen? This happens by Yogamaya By the mystical arrangement of the Lord He reciprocates love With different devotees in different ways So yes Again objectively we can say Madhurya Rasa is the highest But Nishodamaya is completely satisfied In Vatsalya Rasa And in fact She sees Krishna as a small child primarily So There is Scope for relativity Not in the sense of There being No absolute truth But there being different Levels of revelation Of the absolute truth For different people And at the different levels of revelation Of the absolute truth Those particular devotees are completely satisfied Now in one sense Krishna is Krishna Whether he is in Vatsalya Rasa Or Madhurya Rasa Whether he is a child Krishna Or a young man Krishna Youth Krishna But still The Rasa is different So the point which I am making over here is that We shouldn’t try to Impose any absolutism On those Who are actually practicing Bonaparte devotional service That means Just as We don’t have to Convince Anumanji to worship Lord Krishna We don’t have to convince Nishodamaya to see Krishna in Madhurya Rasa Similarly Those who are worshipping Vishnu Bonafide In a Bonafide way According to scripture and practicing Authentic devotional service Will make spiritual advancement And they will In their own way return back to Godhead If they become purified and develop love for God And If they are unable to Accept Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu as Krishna The very fact that they accept Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu As a very great exalted teacher Which all the Sampradayas do And they recognize that he also taught the process of devotional service Which their Acharyas have taught Though there might be some slight differences In the integrities of the process But overall The same process has been taught And If they get inspiration to practice The process of devotional service And they make spiritual advancement By that And go back to Godhead, that is fine So There are two extremes over here One extreme is that we try to Impose our belief on Others So especially If others are in Authentic relationship with the Lord Which is according to scripture Then there is no need for us to Impose our beliefs on others If somebody is being Misled by a misconception That is going to Cause the person to suffer Then it is a different issue So If somebody is worshipping a film star Or a movie star Or a politician as God Then that person is completely misled And that person’s misconceptions Have to be removed to the best of our capacity But If somebody is practicing authentic devotional service Then we don’t have to Forcibly try to bring them To understand the Rasana In which we are practicing devotional service So this is one extreme is to Try to impose Our beliefs on others We don’t do that because We understand that there is room for Individuality and individual reciprocity Based on Individualized revelation from the Lord Within this Devotional realm Now the other extreme is that Because other Sampradayas don’t accept Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as God We start having doubts whether Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Is really God So there is another question over here on the slide If Lord Chaitanya is a Hidden Incarnation then why do devotees Not let him stay hidden Why do they broadcast his glories So in that Answer I have also put a PPT which gives a large number Of references From the scriptures for Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s Divinity So these references Are helpful for us To deepen our faith And the important point Again is that It is not scriptural references Alone That instills faith in the divinity Of a particular person Scriptural references are important But For most people their faith comes By the Personal experience of the Extraordinary nature The divinity Of that person So therefore if By Lord Chaitanya’s arrangement Certain individuals who faithfully Practice in devotional service Have not got that experience We don’t have to push Even the scriptural references down their throats And try to make them Accept that Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is indeed God The important point is The practice of devotional service If we practice devotional service We make spiritual advancement If others practice devotional service They make spiritual advancement So Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Has given the most Potent form of devotional service That is chanting of the holy name Sastrigadhare Krishna Mahamantra And if we accept His divinity as it is revealed in the scriptures Then that Helps us to practice devotional service Better and faster In a more easy way Actually Anandam budhi vardhanam Because Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s grace Makes the Potency of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra Much more easily Accessible to us And that is why We have a special advantage We can accept Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s divinity But We shouldn’t impose That belief on others And we shouldn’t become insecure In our beliefs because of seeing that Others are not accepting our beliefs We should understand that The essence is the process of devotional service And That is what will Lead to spiritual advancement for us So even if somebody accepts the divinity Of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu but doesn’t practice The process of devotional service Then that person is not going to be Significantly or substantially transformed So ultimately The belief in Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s divinity Is meant to help one practice devotional service So if somebody is practicing devotional service Without that belief It is not It is not a disaster It is It is also one way to make spiritual advancement And to even attain liberation If somebody accepts the belief of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as God Then it helps one move faster As I said, faster, easier But We need to understand that Because Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Is Kamal Channa Avatar Not everybody, not even all Practicing bona fide Vaishnavas May be able to recognize and accept His divinity But we understand that this is a part of the plan of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu And We focus on Not disturbing the faith of others But enhancing their faith As much as possible So we have, even within ISKCON There were devotees who were born in Sri Sampradaya In Madhya Sampradaya They were not very inspired To practice devotional service because Of the generation gap That often comes up Between the younger generation Which doesn’t understand the rituals and traditions Of the older generation But when they were introduced to ISKCON They started practicing devotional service And especially when they started chanting Hare Krishna And started experiencing the ecstasy Then They started realizing that actually Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is indeed the Supreme Lord So that conviction Came from within And that conviction was not forced But those who practice devotional service As taught by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Got that conviction So now if others practice devotional service But not exactly in the way that is taught by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu They may not get that specific conviction But they can still make spiritual advancement And Attain liberation But what we should do is We should see that this is also a part of the plan of the Lord And we should play our part in the plan of the Lord Which is Not to disrupt the faith of others But to enhance the faith of others So If We ourselves become proper devotees And we share the philosophy and practices of Krishna Consciousness Properly with others Then more and more people will become connected With Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu And experience the transformational potency Of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s Process of devotional service And then Their faith will become Stimulated and strengthened In the divinity of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Thank you