Do pure devotees have no worldly desires or do they have desires but no inclination to act on those desires?
There is no desire at all or in pure devotees also there is desire but there is no inclination to act on that desire is that the question ok so let me complete this so actually there are as I said there are two ways of looking at it in one sense if you have a body with the body the desire to eat will be natural so at one level eating, sleeping, mating, defending these are simply these are simply drives that are produced by the very contact with the body just as we can't expect that just because somebody is a pure devotee they will have no desire to eat isn't it they will also have the desire to eat and the desire to eat they will regulate according to dharma they will eat only that which is offered properly that is cooked properly so one way of analyzing it is that these desires are simply biological drives that will come when the body is there but a pure person will be able to knows how to regulate the desire according to the principles of dharma so for those in the renounced order or those who are devoted to the lord very purely devoted to the lord then there is no inclination to act on this desire this is one way of looking at it but another way of looking at it is that that a pure devotee's consciousness is so filled with Krishna that they see everything in relationship with Krishna only so for example a pure devotee even they see a woman they don't see the woman as a woman they see a woman as as an associate of Krishna as a gopi and this is also meant to be engaged in Krishna's service and they see it like that see a woman like that then there is no desire that desire may also come and with respect to this verse when Ramanacharya says when I get the desire at that time my lips curl in distaste so now it could be one way of it is this verse can be used as an example to say that even a pure devotee who is relishing the mellows of Krishna they can also get a desire but they don't act on that desire so it can be taken as an example as a reference to substantiate the first view but if somebody wants to hold on to the second view and say that pure devotees cannot have these desires then we could say that this verse is spoken as an example for us that actually they don't have any desires but they are telling us even if we have desires we should not be eager for those desires we should actually turn away from those desires so now Prabhupada also there is that story that Prabhupada said that it's not that I don't have lust it's that I don't have any time for lust so we could say that Prabhupada himself is telling that lust can be there in everyone but another way of looking at it could be that Prabhupada is actually he is a pure devotee but he is coming at our level and telling us that better that even if you have lust if you give no time for lust, lust will not be able to act on you so generally when you are talking about Acharyas it is always better to give them the benefit of doubt that means that if they are making some statements it is better to which can be taken in one way they are very pure, another way they are you can interpret that they are not so pure, it is better to always give them the benefit of doubt and say that they are pure and they are representing they are representing the position of conditioned souls through such verses but if somebody wants to take this as an example that is fine but in general to avoid controversy to avoid any we may not have an offensive mentality at all but any possibility somebody may think it is better to err on the side of caution over here and as far as we are concerned we don't have to necessarily become discouraged just because desires come what is important is the more reliable sign of spiritual advancement is change of values not change of desires change of values means that somebody may ask that after 10 years or so many years of practicing bhakti still I get this desire is my bhakti working so now 10 years before when a person was a non devotee quite often they are eager for this desire people actually watch movies and search on the internet to try to increase their desires so earlier we were welcoming the same desire now we are objecting to the presence of the desire so this is a change of value and change of value is a much more reliable symptom of advancement than change of desires, desires may come and go but if my values have changed that means what do I value, earlier we were valuing the desire itself, when more desire comes then I will enjoy more but now I am valuing purity, I am valuing freedom from desire, so rather than worrying too much about some occasional desires coming into the mind and going off what we can focus on is change of values and if our values have changed that itself is an indication that we are advancing spiritually does this answer your question?